Data Lover 582

A watch face featuring a readable time font, sun events, active statistics and OpenWeatherMap weather. (features depend on watch capabilities, see Q5 in the Frequently Asked Questions below).

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Frequently asked questions

Q1: There is no weather data downloaded / The location of the weather is not correct / …
Getting weather to your watch requires 4 things to be right:
  • Condition 1: You need to be actively connected with your phone via Bluetooth (go to Garmin Connect Mobile and synchronize your watch to force an active connection)
  • Condition 2: Your phone needs to be connected with the internet
  • Condition 3: You need to acquire a gps position by starting a run activity and waiting for a green gps fix. (you can return to the watch face once you have acquired the fix, you don’t need to start the run activity). Alternatively in the settings of the app you can also set the default longitude/latitude to your home location, enter the lat/long in the format as provided by this website:
  • Condition 4: Garmin Connect Mobile needs to be running on your mobile phone (as a background process or actively as a foreground process). Make sure that you have no battery saver apps running that kill the Garmin Connect Mobile instance. (All Internet traffic is throttled through the Garmin Connect Mobile App) (This condition is very important! When the weather is not updating on your watch the usual cause is that Garmin Connect Mobile is not running any more)
  • OpenWeatherMap API Key (optional): Data Lover provides the ability to fill in your own weather api key, this has as advantage that you don’t have to share it with other persons. To request this key sign up at openweathermap and generate an API key. After doing so fill in the key in the Data Lover Application settings.
  • Data Lover Donation Key: Without donation key the fastest weather refresh is every 4 hours (see bottom of this page for the procedure on how to get a donation key)
Once the above 4 things are ok you’ll need to wait until the next Internet request to happen. When using the non-donation version this may take up to 4 hours!

(TIP: change the right chart option to Weather + Time Last Update to see when the last weather update was executed)

Q2: I have entered the lat/long but the watch shows the wrong city
A typical mistake is that you haven’t put a minus symbol where there has to be one. So don’t do a Google search but go to and copy the latitude/longitude for your city as that site shows it.

Q3: How often is the weather being refreshed?
A simple question with a not so straightforward answer as it’s dependant on several factors:
  • the fastest weather refresh rate is normally 4 hours, after filling in a donation key the fastest refresh rate becomes 15 minutes.
  • the refresh happens at regular intervals and at the moment the refresh happens there needs to be an active bluetooth connection, an active internet connection and a stored gps location (see Q1)
  • the data of the weather comes from the OpenWeaterMap weather service, if the service address returns an invalid response (or times out) then the cached data stored in the watch face remains to be shown
  • the data of the weather comes from the OpenWeaterMap weather service, this service also caches data and is also dependant on eg weather stations to provide data to OpenWeaterMap So It could be that there is no new data and that the data just remains the same….

Q4: Can I verify whether the weather fetch was sucessful?
Yes, you can set the right chart option to Weather + Time of last update. When the weather fetch is succesful it will show the time of the latest fetch in the foreground color (white by default), when the weather fetch returned an error it will show in red (See Q1 on how to resolve. For additional debug info set up a debug session, see instructions at the bottom of this article.

Q5: The weather, the active heart rate chart and/or the option to show seconds is not available on my device
  • fetching the weather requires the ability to connect to the internet which is not possible on Connect IQ 1 devices
  • always on seconds and the active heart rate chart feature depend on the always on technology to provide updates to the screen while in low power mode (this is only supported in fenix 5 derivatives and vivoactive 3 derivatives)

Q6: The watch face says “Like it? Donate!”. Do I need to donate to use the watch face?
Twice per hour a small donation encouragement message is shown to make people aware that making a donation is a possibility. Making a donation is completely optional. In case you wish to donate you can find the donation procedure at the bottom of this article.

Q7: Can I force an update of the weather and or force an update of the sunrise/sunset times?
This doesn’t work on all watches, but it’ll work on most:
  • setup everything as explained in Q1 and/or Q5
  • uninstall the watch face (see Q8) (you will lose all your customizations by the uninstallation)
  • install the watch face

Q8: I try to install the watch face but the Connect IQ store tells me I need a firmware update while I’m already at the latest version!
Solution 1: Disconnect your watch from the usb cable, likely there’s an update on your watch ready to be installed. Install this update and retry.
Solution 2: Restore your watch to factory settings from within the System menu on your watch. (Be sure to upload your activities to Garmin Connect first as all user data will be wiped from the watch.)

Q9: I can not remove the watch face
To delete the Data Lover watch face you first have to make another face the active watch face.
(To change the active watch face long press the left middle button on a button device or long press the screen on a touch device)

Q10: Setting “x” is not applied properly
Sometimes when auto-updating a watch face the settings were updated to the new version but the program itself was not yet updated and was stuck on the previous version. To fix this remove the watch face (see Q9) and reinstall the watch face. (you will have to reapply your customization to the settings when removing and installing)

Q11: The city shown is far away from my location
There is a firmware bug on some Garmin watches (Vivoactive 3, Fenix, …) which can make the gps position drift. A workaround for this issue is to ignore the values the gps watch returns, you do this by setting the following configuration in the App Settings:
  • Allow Gps Override: Set to off
  • Latitude/Longitude: Fill the values for your location (Beware that you might need a minus sign for your latitude or longitude, to get the correct format for your location use the website )

Q12: Where do I find the app settings?
You can use Garmin Express or Garmin Connect Mobile to adjust the application settings, a help topic which describes this in more detail can be found here

Q13: How do I change the temperature to Celsius?
On your watch go to Settings – System – Units – Temperature
On the next internet request the weather will use the new unit.
(If you don’t want to wait for the next internet request: after changing the unit to the desired measure execute an uninstall and reinstall of Data Lover)

Q14: I have read Q1 and followed all directions but the weather does not update any more
Sometimes the update of the watch face is not applied properly where settings and program file get out of sync. To resolve this uninstall and reinstall Data Lover and then follow the directions as indicated in FAQ Q1.

Q15: What are the default wind speed units?
When the setting is on “default” then km/h is used when your watch uses the metric system, miles/h is used when you use the imperial system. You can change to other wind speed units in the application settings of the watch.

Q16: The sunrise/sunset time is incorrect

The sunrise time is calculated once a day and is dependent on getting a good gps fix:
  • the gps location is only known for a very short period in watch faces (only shortly after doing a gps activity). To let the watchface acquire your location do the following: start a gps activity (eg run) and wait till you have acquired a good gps signal. stop the activity and go back to the watchface.

Q17: I have a Fenix 6 and the weather temperature sometimes gets stuck
The problem is that for some reason the background thread gets killed on a fenix 6. A workaround is to move away to the widget loop and then move back to the watch face.

The device team is working on a fix, for status updates see this bug report (You can upvote the request by clicking the up arrow)

Q18: I have a Venu 2 (Plus) and the historic heart rate history chart shows no values
This is a bug in the Venu 2 firmware.
A bug report has been filed, for status updates see this bug report (You can upvote the request by clicking the up arrow)

I have another question!
There are several channels for support:
  • You can post your question below this article
  • You can post your question in the forum support topic
  • You can use the contact developer link on the app description page


The watchface can be downloaded from the Connect IQ Store


The watch face is fully functional without donating (there is a very occasional small message to encourage donations, refreshing the weather info occurs at a slightly higher rate after donation).

If you like the watch face you can show your appreciation by donating a small amount (suggested donation: 3 euro) on my PayPal account (Mention the name of the app: “Data Lover” + your email address). After donation you will receive a donation key on your PayPal email address which will remove the encouragement message from the watch face. (this email is a manual process, if you do not receive a donation key within 48 hours contact me via the contact developer link)

(SPECIAL PROMO: in case you like several of my apps and you want to remove donation encouragement messages from all of them, then donating one big amount might be beneficial to you. When you donate 19 euro or more you’ll get one key that’s valid for ALL my current AND future apps: )


I’m working on Data Lover localisation, the localized version is available as a public beta version. See In the “What’s new” section you can see which languages still needs to be done.

Debugging setup (for advanced users)

The watch face contains a debug option, to set this up follow these steps:
1/ Uninstall the watch face (See Q9)
2/ Install the watch face and turn on the debug option in the settings
3/ Connect the watch with an usb cable to your computer and browse to the folder \GARMIN\APPS Remember the most recent name of the PRG file
4/ Browse to the folder \GARMIN\APPS\LOGS and create a txt file with the same name as the most recent prg file 5/ After running the watchface for a while the txt file should contain debug info about sun events and weather retrieval


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582 thoughts on “Data Lover

  1. Reply MrEdDy23 May 24,2018 11:45

    Hi Peter,
    I went exactly what you recommend, but the weather simply does not work. Sometimes I see only Brussels. I do not see the weather for my current location.

  2. Reply Peter May 24,2018 11:59

    It is the way to fix the weather though make sure to all 3 requirements. I see if I can provide an option in the settings in the next version where you can provide a city override.

  3. Reply Barba Jun 1,2018 03:44

    Hi Peter,

    The letter (mail) icon at the top is always on even I don’t have any unread mail. How can I fix that?

  4. Reply Peter Jun 3,2018 06:47

    The icon indicates unread notifications. In your widget loop (press down from the watchface a few times) there should be a widget that shows these messages you can mark them as read by pressing the start button.

    • Reply Marc Mar 19,2021 16:21

      Hi Peter,

      I also have this mail icon. I went into my widget loop but i could not find a widget that shows these messages. pls advise again.

  5. Reply Joshua Demeter Jun 4,2018 18:14

    I have tried every fix to correct the default location from Brussels and nothing works. Can you please help?

    • Reply Peter Jun 5,2018 17:53

      hey Joshua, I have the impression that on some watch types it’s difficult to acquire the location from the last gps activity so in the next version of Data Lover I’ll be providing a mechanism so that you will be able to manually enter a longitude and latitude. Likely will be releasing the new version by the end of this week. Cheers, Peter.

  6. Reply Manolo Calvo Jun 11,2018 14:45

    Hi Peter
    Just bought the Fenix 5x on Jun 9 2018
    Downloaded Data Lover and Data Lover has been updated
    I’m in Palm Beach, FL USA
    But the watch thinks I’m in Brussels
    The temperature capture also seems to be Brussels
    Additionally, how you change the 1/2 circles chart at the very bottom on the watch face?
    I would like, instead, to have the HR chat at the bottom.
    Also the seconds are not displaying on the digital time capture.
    And, lastly, The HRM chart: What is the length of time tracked on the chart?

  7. Reply Christopher W Jul 4,2018 00:59

    Hey I was wondering if there’s a feature to change the weather temp measurement from Fahrenheit to Celsius

    • Reply salyavin Jul 4,2018 03:29

      I am having trouble with it being stuck on Fahrenheit as well.

      • Reply Peter Jul 4,2018 05:36

        On your watch go to settings – system – units- temperature – celsius

        On the next weather refresh the new unit will be used.

  8. Reply Uwe Rasmussen Jul 14,2018 21:51

    Hi, I have the Forerunner 235 with DataLover but do not have the option to set the Right chart to anything other than “Move Circles”, and similarly the bottom chart to “Step History”. I would like to set the right chart to weather/temperature but cannot seem to be find the setting.
    Is it only possible to have the weather with a different watch than the FR235?

    • Reply Peter Jul 19,2018 19:27

      the FR235 is a Connect IQ v1 watch does not support connecting to the internet from a watch face, so the option to set weather is not available on that watch. The option to set the weather is available in newer watches such as the FR735xt, Fenix5, Vivoactive3, etc…

  9. Reply AA Jul 18,2018 13:54


    Can you please advise how I can change the weather from F to C? I tried changing the setting via Garmin connect under Measurement Units to Metric and Statute UK, but the weather is still in F (even after syncing).

    Thank you

  10. Reply Peter Jul 18,2018 18:24

    You can change the units on the watch via menu Settings -》 system -》 units. After you change the unit it will take until the next weather fetch before you see it adjusted in data lover (The weather fetch is executed every 2 hours)

    • Reply Luis Acevedo Apr 3,2021 14:47

      Hi Peter. I love the watch face. In the weather+forecast, next to the temperature forecast you have a symbol that show if it’s cloudy or rainy, and next to it a letter “a” or “p” . What does these letters mean? Thx

  11. Reply Darien Jul 26,2018 00:16

    Anyway to change the font color for the HR graph? When the theme is set to white/black the font is white and is very difficult to read

    • Reply Peter Jul 26,2018 06:04

      Not at the moment. I’ll add a new option in the next Data Lover release so that you can choose this color. Cheers, Peter.

  12. Reply Nikolay Jul 30,2018 09:46

    Hi Peter,

    Do you plan to add the current HR as an option to be displayed in the HR graph. I have Vivoactive 3 and the current HR value will be more useful than the HR range for me. Maybe to show the current next to the range.

  13. Reply Peter Jul 30,2018 13:36

    Sounds reasonable 🙂
    I’ll try to take this along in the next version.

  14. Reply Bob Wagner Aug 4,2018 06:23

    Has anyone started working with Beta 3 SDK. I am really interested in the ability to access the Radar data, but not confident in getting started. I have written one Data app called MaxSpeed that is based on a Simple Data Field.

  15. Reply Max Aug 5,2018 05:11

    Hi Peter. What means percentage under the move bar? i didnt find the answer in FAQ

  16. Reply Peter Aug 5,2018 08:54

    The percentage indicates how much of today’s step goal has been completed.

  17. Reply Emily Aug 7,2018 13:05

    Below my field 1 and field 2, There is a field with a percentage. It’s the same percentage, which I *think* is the percentage of steps completed toward my goal. But it’s there twice, and I cannot see that customization in the settings.

  18. Reply Peter Aug 7,2018 13:09

    Hmm. Can you post a screenshot?

  19. Reply Peter Aug 8,2018 14:50

    hi Joey, that’s a bug in Garmin Connect Mobile, it erases the app and reinstalls it instead of updating it. So when you update with GCM you’ll have to re-enter all customizations including the donation code. If you want to avoid that you can update your apps via Garmin Express on your computer.

  20. Reply Matt Aug 11,2018 18:17

    So I like this face, however, the battery drain is unreal. I literally have to charge the watch eeryday. That’s overkill.

  21. Reply Peter Aug 11,2018 19:19

    Which watch do you have matt?

  22. Reply Roos Aug 24,2018 17:59

    Downloading weather data only works when Garmin Connect is running in the background. Is it normal?
    Iphone and Tactix Charlie FW 10

  23. Reply Peter Aug 25,2018 05:59

    Yes the watch itself Can not connect to the internet so it depends on a active Bluetooth connection to garmin connect mobile for retrieval

  24. Reply M. Scott Sep 1,2018 22:11

    Hi Peter;

    I donated on Aug. 19 but also did not receive the donation fee number for the app. Looking forward to the number so I can further enjoy the app!

    Thank you – great app !

  25. Reply Kevin Sep 11,2018 06:25

    First of all, I love this Watch face! Great work!

    I noticed, not sure if anyone brought it up already; if the weather message is too long, it will actually covered up the date field. For example, if the weather is “Scattered Thunderstorms”, the date won’t get displayed as the message takes up the entire roll. Is there anyway around this?

    Thanks in advance!


    • Reply Peter Sep 11,2018 08:38

      Yes this is by design.

      There are a “few levels” of dates that get displayed:
      – Mon, 10 Sep
      – 10 Sep
      – 10/9
      – nothing

      The version of the date that gets displayed is dependent on the width of the weather condition. As Scattered Thunderstorms does not leave enough space for the smallest version of the date to be displayed it falls into the nothing case.

      • Reply Kevin Sep 12,2018 02:43

        Hi Peter,

        Thanks for the reply. I actually prefer knowing the date than the current weather. Hopefully there is a way in the future for this. maybe scrolling weather display or using abbreviation for the weather condition?

        Thanks again!


  26. Reply simone Sep 11,2018 13:40

    Hi Peter, Thx for your job.
    I’ve got forerunner 235 can’t see weather.
    Other problem is that i can’t choose anythin in the bottom chart exept the move field. How can i display HR?? Is there a way to display the HR in the field 4?

  27. Reply Amy Sep 11,2018 13:50

    Hi there. How do I change weather from faranheit to Celsius please?
    Thanks. Amy.

    • Reply Peter Sep 11,2018 14:38

      On your watch go to settings -> system settings -> change the units there. It’ll take up to the next internet fetch before the watch uses the new settings.

  28. Reply Kevin Sep 17,2018 01:40

    Hi Peter,

    I just installed the latest update for Data Lover, however after the installation , the Watchface no longer works on my Descent MK1. The watch face was set back to default, when I try to change it to Data Lover, it just shows the IQ logo with the yellow exclamation mark. I tried to restart the watch and still got the same error. I have not try to uninstall then reinstall yet tho. Not sure if anyone else is experiencing this problem also?

    • Reply Peter Sep 17,2018 07:36

      To update to a new version it’s always best to uninstall / reinstall (especially if there are changes to the settings options such as in 6.0) – (unfortunately uninstall/reinstall means you’ll have to re-enter your setting customizations, so be sure to note down your changes).

      Let me know if the problem persists after uninstall/reinstall then we’ll look deeper into it.

  29. Reply Jim Sep 21,2018 11:34

    Hello – I have a Garmin Vivoactive 3 and I have to say I love this watch. The only problem I have with it is where it thinks it’s located. Originally it said it was in Brussels… Then it changed to the correct location (although how it did that I don’t know). Then when I was out of town it changed to that location and has been there for over a month. I can’t figure out how to make it change to my current location. I’ve followed the links and scanned through the postings, but I can’t find the answer anywhere even though it’s referenced. Can you please let me know how to update the location. Thank you!

    • Reply Peter Sep 21,2018 14:36

      The location doesn’t update constantly when you move to a new city. The only way watch faces can retrieve location is by interrogating the last gps activity (and only during a very limited time). To update the location just start eg a run activity and after the gps has turned “green” you can stop the activity and exit to the watchface. On the next weather retrieval (can take up to 2 hours) it now should use this new location.

      • Reply Jim Sep 21,2018 19:09

        Heya Peter!

        Thanks! Not a difficult solution at all. Very happy with the app. You’ve done a great job.

        Again, thanks for the prompt response.

  30. Reply Nikolay Sep 22,2018 13:37

    Hi Peter. I have Vivoactive 3 and I have the same weather location issue. It shows places far away from me. Places where I have never been. The lat lon are correctly set and when I start GPS avtivity I get the correct location only for a while. After that it gets wrong again very soon. Every few hours I have to start GPS activity to get the correct location. Any ideas how to fix that.

  31. Reply Peter Sep 22,2018 17:21

    Hey nikolay i’ve had other reports like this. Could you setup a debug session ( see above) and when you see the city drift happening mail the log file to me through the contact developer option?
    Cheers Peter

  32. Reply Joep Sep 29,2018 06:26

    Recently the weather location is jumping all over the place. After enabling gps it works but with the next update it will be off by 50km east west north really no clue why.

  33. Reply Peter Sep 29,2018 11:44

    Hey joep it’s a problem in the current firmware on the vivoactive 3. I’ve submitted a test case to Garmin that demonstrates it. I hope it’ll be fixed in the next fw release. For now as a workaround get a new gps fix… Cheers Peter.

  34. Reply Joep Oct 1,2018 08:00

    I’m not surprised and expected as much already. They just keep adding more new bugs with every firmware. Thanks for clearing it up Peter!

  35. Reply marc Oct 3,2018 20:47

    Hey Peter,

    Several months now with your apps and data fields and am loving them all. 🙂

    Quick Q on DATALOVER, when the Garmin Connect App on the iPhone is running in the background (ie open, but not in focus) all is fine. But if the app is closed, Datalover cannot sync and fetch weather. This is despite having the app enabled for use set to always in the iPhone settings.

    Does this make sense to you, or is there a way to get it to work even when not running in background.

    Thx much,

    • Reply Peter Oct 25,2018 14:06

      all internet traffic indeed passes through garmin connect mobile, so the gcm app must be active. Cheers, Peter.

  36. Reply Nik Oct 4,2018 19:09

    Hello. Really nice face for garmin. Thanks. I want to donnate but in my country paypal is locked is there another way. Payoneer epayments?

  37. Reply Mauce Oct 24,2018 08:36

    I have set ‘right chart’ to ‘Weather + Time Last Update’.
    I found out most of the time it fails to update (I have a stable internet connection) and therefore the update time is in RED (because it failed).
    However, since the temperature displayed it the last value upon successful update I rather have the ‘time last successfull update’ below the temperature instead the red timestamp.
    Because when the timestamp is in red you can’t tell of which timestamp the temperature shown is.
    Could you please implement that?

    • Reply Peter Oct 25,2018 14:04

      I can see that this could be useful, I’ll consider adding an option for it.

      The most likely reason your weather update does not work is because garmin connect mobile is not active in the background (all internet traffic is guided through that app), make sure to disable process killers on your mobile phone (or to make an exclusion for gcm).

  38. Reply angel Nov 4,2018 21:12

    Hi, only a question about preasure… what is the unit? by example now I se 908 but un activity the watch show me 1006mb.
    Thank you!

    • Reply Peter Nov 4,2018 21:19

      The pressure in the watch face is also in millibar, but watch faces can’t access the sensor and have to take this from the pressure history samples taken by the watch, so there could be a slight delay in the pressure reading.

  39. Reply Jason Nov 5,2018 14:04

    hi dude, my watch is fenix3,i have yahoo weather in my phone, but why I cannot have the weather option in the watch face setting?

    • Reply Peter Nov 5,2018 14:49

      Older Connect Iq devices like your Fenix 3 do not have the ability from within watch faces to connect to the internet to retrieve the weather.

  40. Reply Tobi Nov 8,2018 21:12

    Can i Set language too German ????? 🙂

  41. Reply Tomi Nov 23,2018 08:06

    Great watch face, keep on good work! The wind data is very useful for me and could be more useful if it would be shown in standard format as m/s, not in km/h. Can I set it right somewhere?

    • Reply Peter Nov 23,2018 09:37

      Currently it’s either in k/h or mph (based on watch settings in system -> units menu), it’s on my to do to add knots and m/s options.

      • Reply Mike Aug 17,2020 11:59

        Thanks for a great watch face.
        Is there a way to set your home altitude so watch knows the correct altitude versus a high or low pressure? I figure if you have a set altitude then the watch will have a baseline for the days run, walk or whatever?

  42. Reply Taavi Dec 2,2018 19:38

    Great face, thanks! However, is there any way to set the time format to be 24h instead of 12h?

    • Reply Peter Dec 2,2018 19:58

      yes you can change this in the System Settings on your watch. (settings -> system -> time -> 24hr)

  43. Reply Slarsen Dec 5,2018 10:18

    I would love to be able to have stress instead of heart rate on the graph bottom center.

  44. Reply stakas86 Dec 5,2018 18:01

    Hi, i have donate for your job and I received from paypal and I entered the code in the application, but it still has not been activated.
    Also while I have my coordinates I still write Brussels in the country, although it has been 2 hours.

  45. Reply Peter Dec 5,2018 18:43

    See all requirements in q1. The most common problem is that garmin connect mobile is not running.

  46. Reply stakas86 Dec 5,2018 21:26

    I have taken all the steps from question 1 but the city has not changed.
    The clock I have its a garmin vivovactive 3 music.

  47. Reply Chris Dec 8,2018 23:05

    Hey Peter, Love the watch face but had some questions on the GPS functionality. If I have the GC Mobile running in the background on iPhone is the watch pulling GPS data from the phone or the watch itself? For example, I’m in a building and don’t have a good GPS watch signal but my cell is pulling a location from the cell towers. Is it pulling the cell phone location? That might help with my ‘understanding’ of how this watch and the face works! Thanks for a great face!!

  48. Reply Peter Dec 9,2018 06:48

    Gps location comes from the watch. Watch faces can not execute a refresh of the location though and are limited to fetching the location of the last gps activity (eg your last recorded run session)

    • Reply Chris Dec 9,2018 16:50

      Thanks Peter for that update, definitely makes more sense now. And from studying more I’ve also learned to keep the GC app open in the background, big difference! Thanks again for your hard work on this. -Chris

  49. Reply Geoff Jan 13,2019 03:09

    Hi Peter,

    Thanks for the face! Two quick questions…

    1. Is there a way to have temperature run off the data in the Garmin watch instead of fetching from yahoo?

    2. Just did a Garmin update on my Vivoactiv3 and the face now does not have the option to show weather+forecast and also not show the sun image next to Sunny (just a blank rectangle).

  50. Reply Jens Jan 13,2019 19:08

    With the latest Update (7.0) the Symbol for the weather is wrong:


  51. Reply Charlie Woodard Jan 16,2019 06:09

    Is there a picture that shows where all the fields are located on the watch face? When going through the set-up in Garmin Connect, I have no idea where “Field X” is on the watch face.

    • Reply Peter Feb 14,2019 13:40

      the field layout is like this:
      field 5 – field 6
      field 4
      field 1 – field 2 – field 3

  52. Reply Ulrich Goebel Jan 23,2019 16:21

    Hi Peter

    The watch face disappears occasionally – once I sync with my computer it’s back, only to disappear again after only 10 minutes. The settings on my Garmin App also disappeared (showing the app but size 0kb and no data). Any idea how to fix this?


    • Reply Peter Feb 14,2019 13:39

      in case you still see this can you check on your watch in the folder \garmin\apps\logs for a file called ciq_log.yml and email me the contents.

  53. Reply Laura Jan 29,2019 16:44

    Hi Peter,
    it would be nice if I could see my swimming data. For example weely distance, distance history or goals.

    I hope that you can add this features soon.


  54. Reply Darren Jan 30,2019 13:27

    Hi Peter,
    When reading about your weather info and setup…
    If I set the default longitude/latitude to my home location, will GPS location overwrite and update the weather data to the new GPS location, or will it always use the longitude/latitude data?
    Great WF, thanks a lot!

    • Reply Peter Feb 14,2019 13:30

      The gps location of the watch will be used if you set the “Allow Gps Override” app setting on

  55. Reply Adrian Feb 3,2019 19:14

    Great WF one of the best in the Shop.
    But I miss DND/Sleep Icon when it’s on.

  56. Reply Chris Feb 4,2019 06:17

    Hi Peter,

    Love this watchface. Any chance you could make an analog version, maybe without the graph?

  57. Reply Phillip Feb 14,2019 11:17

    Hi, first of all, thanks for a good watch face, I really like it!

    The weather though is kind of unprecise at my location in Northern Europe.

    Would it be possible to add weather data from as a option – This is a free very good Norwegian hosted weather service for the whole world, with focus on Europe. Data is free to use and is available in forms of xml, javascript and php formats.

    If you don’t have time to/ a wish to integrate it, would it be possible to contribute with the code?

    Link for developers in English:

    • Reply Peter Feb 14,2019 13:38

      In the connect iq world it’s unfortunately not that easy. Besides that every line of code consumes memory, is also not a good candidate to use as besides not having a json response the response size of the weather service is also too large (reading response also consumes memory), so I would have to write a server side parsing on my hosting site and also foresee an extra bandwidth hit on my site for it.

  58. Reply Jørgen Dyrhaug Feb 19,2019 11:18

    Hi Peter!

    Lost the donation key for my favourite watch face due to a reinstall. And noe I’m away form home (and my home computer) for a week, and I wonder if you’r able to resend the donation key to me?

  59. Reply Arshilk Feb 24,2019 10:44

    Hi Peter,
    Getting the following message:
    “Open outside Garmin Connect mobile” with option “open” and “cancel”.
    Can’t save the settings even if I select “open”
    Please help.

  60. Reply Paul Feb 25,2019 20:31

    does anybody know when this watch face will be fixed for the iOS platform ??

  61. Reply Mostafa Mossaad Mar 1,2019 14:20

    Hi Peter,
    You’ve sent me the key that allows for faster weather updates. And I’ve been through the FAQ to know that you use the Yahoo weather API. My problem is that there watch face isn’t showing the correct weather. It detects my location normally, and when I look at Yahoo weather for the same location, I see different weather. What do you think?

    • Reply Peter Apr 15,2019 12:27

      The weather provider used is OpenWeatherMap not Yahoo

      • Reply Mike Hensen Sep 10,2020 23:25

        Please delete, shred, erase and forget my previous question about time of light and dark bars, quite obviously I’m an idiot

  62. Reply Lorenzo Testasecca Mar 29,2019 05:19

    Hi Peter.

    How do I get rid of the rediculous paypal fees. I want to donate but don’t want to pay double in fee’s

    Loving the watchface

    Regards Lorenzo

    • Reply Peter Apr 15,2019 12:31

      hi Lorenzo,
      PayPal is sometimes ridiculous indeed with the fees they charge, it helps to use the bank account instead of a credit card to transfer funds. There are 2 alternative donation options here The first is also through PayPal but with the option to donate without creating a paypal account, the other is through BuyMeACoffee, where I think there are no fees. Let me know if that works for you.

  63. Reply RUNdreas Apr 5,2019 19:59

    Time of SUNRISE is one our to late in the actual version!

    • Reply Peter Apr 15,2019 12:32

      Sunrise is calculated once per day to save battery life. Did you see this behavior on the day that day saving time was starting to be applied? It should be fixed the day after. Cheers, Peter.

  64. Reply Jeff Shaw Apr 8,2019 14:50

    Peter – best watch face I have found for my F5. I want to send you money to improve the weather update frequency but paypal wants to charge me $2 just to make a donation. Any ideas? Thanks and great work on the design.

  65. Reply Sandor Apr 20,2019 09:49

    Hi there!
    Im using this face for long time and i love it.
    But now i have a problem,i changed my watch from vivoactive music to fenix 3 hr and i cant choose the weather to show.
    Help me out please

  66. Reply Hans Apr 22,2019 08:42

    Watchface shows pressure of 1191 mbar (893 mmHg) instead of 1010 mbar.

  67. Reply ludo May 3,2019 14:39

    I have a FR235 and would like to have the HR graph instead of the steps at the bottom.
    I don’t have the option in the settings menu, even if the FR235 has the always on technology.

    Also, in the case I want to keep the Steps graph, where do I put my steps goal ?


    • Reply Peter May 3,2019 14:49

      hi Ludo, the FR235 does not have the always on technology, so the active hr chart is not supported on your device.

      The steps goal is managed from within your garmin connect account either through the mobile app or the connect website.

  68. Reply kit May 16,2019 23:57

    Hello Peter
    This to notify you that I have made a payment towards this app. However I did not mention “Data Lover” as instructed. I hope this message clarifies my error. Many Thanks.

    • Reply Peter May 30,2019 13:44

      Normally you should have received it in the meanwhile, in case of not use the contact developer option on the app page.

  69. Reply spaghet May 19,2019 23:36

    Could you tell me why I can’t set “Bottom Chart” to show my heart rate in Garmin Express for my Forerunner 235?

  70. Reply Paul May 23,2019 09:49

    Hi Peter.
    I would like to donate but I have:
    “You’ll send 3,01 EUR
    Fee 2,57 EUR
    You’ll pay 5,58 EUR”

    is there any other way to donate? e.g. Revolut? direct payment?

  71. Reply Christy Jun 5,2019 14:19

    I have the vivoactive 3. I have used this watch face since December. I was able to change the settings of the watch face (including color and field info), then my watch had a weird glitch about a month ago and the settings to the watch face will not sync to the watch now. Garmin just replaced my entire watch last week because they thought the sync errors were from the watch. But now the new watch still will not sync/receive the settings that I change within the app. Any advice?

    • Reply Peter Jun 7,2019 13:04

      Sometimes it happens that settings are out of sync with the app. Only thing I can suggest is to make another watchface active, delete data lover and then to download it again. Downloading it through Garmin Express on the computer usually works better than downloading through the mobile app.

  72. Reply Martin Jun 12,2019 09:47

    Hi Peter,

    your whatch face “Data Lover” is very good, nice design, but I found two issue. 1) Chart of altitude show bad value value min/max. during 4 hours history. 2) Wheather position not support Czech letters (č, ř, š ,ě etc.) instead of position show nonsense names. Could you solve these two issues in next release, please? Then I will purchasing premium version. Thank you for your feedback. Best regard Martin.

    • Reply Peter Jun 16,2019 17:08

      1/ can you elaborate on the bad min/max value?
      2/ I just checked and these letters should be replaced by their non diacritic form (c, r, s, e). Can you set up a debug session (see bottom of the faq) to check for which character does not get displayed properly (email me the log file to )

  73. Reply JET Jun 15,2019 10:36

    Hi Peter,

    First of all, thank you for such a wonderful watch face. I like it a lot. I just donated to you, however, I couldn’t find anywhere during the donation via paypal to put in “Data Lover” as instructed. Hopefully, it will be ok. Look forward to your key soon.

    Thanks and regards,


  74. Reply Natalia Jun 22,2019 06:23

    Hi! Thank you for your application, it is really useful 🙂 I have one question – I changed the watch on Garmin forerunner 45s and everything is ok but I can not set the options to show me the current heart rate in the data fields. Can you set it?
    Greetings 🙂

    • Reply Peter Jun 26,2019 21:06

      hi Natalia, the FR45 is very limited in memory so I had to cut down a bit in functionality in order to be able to deploy it to that watch. The heartrate is one of the features that had to go.

      • Reply Natalia Jul 1,2019 09:33

        Will it be possible in the future to add a heart rate and choice in options, for example instead of sunrise and sunset? I do not need this information, but the heart rate is important. Greetings 🙂

  75. Reply Bo runner Jun 27,2019 06:51

    Hi, thanks for great watch face, I like it very much 🙂 I have a question – if the arrow next to wind speed points from top to bottom is it north wind, left to right west wind etc? Or is it decreasing wind speed, stable speed etc? Thank you very much again!

  76. Reply Jon Richardson Jun 27,2019 15:32

    Hi Peter, I absolutely love your watch face and use it every day!

    One additional feature I’m sure many people would love is the ability to show the current price of Bitcoin in the top and/or bottom gauge slots.

    • Reply Peter Jun 29,2019 06:21

      It would be useful, but there’s no memory left to add this feature. Maybe it will fit in my next watch face.

  77. Reply François Brooks Jun 29,2019 06:53

    Hi, Peter.
    Best watch screen for Vivoactive 3.
    Thank you for the answer of June 22nd.

    I just sent my donation but did not find a way to mention the name of the app: “Data-Lover”. How can I make the message “Make donation” disappear on my watch now ?

  78. Reply bob Jun 29,2019 18:54

    I have set the ‘bottom guage’ to pressure graph and it works fine.
    I just can’t work out the the two numbers. There are two numbers, I guess that these are the high and low in Pa, but the two numbers don’t seem to relate to the high part of the guage.
    The high number can be to the left and near the low part of the graph, or vice versa.
    Anu thoughts?

    • Reply Peter Jun 30,2019 17:05

      hi Bob, the number on the left is always the minimum of the graph and the number on the right always the maximum (in hPa / mbar). Preferably I’d put the numbers next to each other with a dash in between, but I don’t have sufficient room to do so.

  79. Reply bob Jul 5,2019 17:27

    cheers thanks. Make sense now

  80. Reply lee kwang sug Jul 7,2019 04:56

    donate paypal 3 eur

    give code

    i want 15min update weather

  81. Reply Amin j Jul 8,2019 14:41

    Hi I just download that datalover however I really appreciate if you could add 1 more data in the face screen spo2.. Appreciate if you could add on and I would love to donate..

  82. Reply Tom Shackelford Jul 10,2019 15:39

    How can I switch to the second watch face on my Fenix 5? I only have the one primary face as the option currently.

  83. Reply Darci Jul 12,2019 00:51

    Hello Peter. Great watch face. Is my favourite now.
    I’d appreciate if you put an optional hourly slight vibration (like chime function in Casio’s watches) during the day.
    Thank you.

  84. Reply Peter Jul 15,2019 07:21

    this is unfortunately not possible in garmin watch faces. (I’ve asked a few months ago to Garmin and they don’t want to expose this functionality because the vibration could be too energy consuming)

  85. Reply Helder Jul 15,2019 15:19


  86. Reply Brian Jul 15,2019 22:52

    I have installed weather release code
    I do all four things as mentioned above and start walking or map app
    I get gps connection
    However when pressing back button to return to watch face the gps connection is always lost
    GARMIN 5S plus

    • Reply Peter Jul 16,2019 07:20

      Normally that shouldn’t matter, the gps position will be remembered for a short while. You can verify that your location is picked up by setting up a debug session (see bottom of the faq for instructions)

  87. Reply Helder Jul 17,2019 10:14

    these steps I’ve already done, I just need you to identify the field where I should intrude the code that you sent
    thank you

  88. Reply Helder Jul 19,2019 11:50

    I have already put the code, but sometimes the message symbol appears, but the location never updates
    thank you

  89. Reply James Jul 19,2019 15:28

    Is there a way to hide the text of the bottom step bar? It shows chrrent step count and the goal which I don’t really need to see.


    • Reply Peter Jul 19,2019 22:56

      you can’t hide the values, but you could change the bottom gauge to the move bar (which shows less text)?

  90. Reply Marty Jul 19,2019 16:39

    I have a Garmin 645 music and I am leaning to use your Data Lover watch face. I was wondering which data field will be able to display the HR in the largest font? I have gone through the options and HR is the same font size in multiple spots. I would like to see the HR option where the weather/ circles go. Is that a possibility? Thanks.

    • Reply Peter Jul 19,2019 22:58

      currently not no. It’s also a bit of an issue to have another large spot for updating the screen often (everything needs to be updated within 30ms for intra-minute updates)

  91. Reply Helder Jul 20,2019 14:57

    eu já coloquei o código, mas às vezes aparece o símbolo da mensagem, mas o local nunca atualiza

  92. Reply Jens Jul 27,2019 16:14

    Great Watchface – love it.
    But I’m missing DND/Sleep-Function. Also active calories in addition to calories would be fine. Thanks for your work.

    • Reply Peter Jul 28,2019 14:42

      DND indicator might be added in the future. Calculating active calories is unlikely due to very limited memory left in Data Lover.

  93. Reply Kara Jul 30,2019 15:45

    Love this watch face, thanks!
    Recently, the moon phase indicator has stopped working. Instead of showing the current phase, an empty box is displayed. I had hoped that updating would fix, but no such luck. Any advice?

  94. Reply Justin Evidon Jul 31,2019 16:23

    Hi Peter,

    Fantastic watch face – spent hours looking through all the various options and this is by far the most intuitive and informative.

    My only request is that you include additional options for the right chart (weather). It would be great to have this show the forecasted temperature and precipitation instead of just the current information. Additionally, it would be nice to have the option to use the right chart to display “seconds” for the current time, or just turn that space off altogether.

    Keep up the great work!

    • Reply Peter Aug 1,2019 17:31

      the weather provider I use doesn’t have forecasts in it’s free offering. Turning off items and big seconds for the right chart option are already items on the backlog. That’s no guarantee that it’ll arrive in data lover though (memory is tight, too tight to get all the things of the to do list in)

  95. Reply Sudharshan Aug 16,2019 01:13

    Am trying to add Second time zone and its not allowing me to add, it says use 0 or .0
    Garmin fenix 5

  96. Reply Peter Aug 16,2019 04:22

    Try garmin express on your pc there’s a bug in the mobile app that prevents this

  97. Reply Mal Aug 17,2019 14:20

    Hello, I have often seen that my device has no notifications yet the symbol does not disable on the device. Is there a way of sorting this or customising which symbols display? Thanks.

  98. Reply tomikaro Aug 24,2019 10:21

    Hello Peter,
    Have a Forerunner 235, and changed the watch face from Data lover to other, and since I changed back, all my settings are lost, and i’m not able to change it in settings. I change some fields and hit save. It saves successfully (appears on the phone screen), but when i enter again in settings there no changes made.
    It is the Garmin Connect app bug, or is something else?

    • Reply Peter Aug 24,2019 14:18

      it’s apparently an issue on the issue on the ios version of garmin connect. a workaround is to uninstall the watch face and use the new connect iq app to install the watch face.

  99. Reply Roy Sep 1,2019 13:33

    I have what appears to be the same problem where I can no longer change settings with Garmin Connect. A message pops up saying the change was saved but it does not actually change anything and the watch face is stuck in default mode.

    I have tried uninstalling the watch face and deleting it from Connect IQ, deleting and reinstalling the Connect app, and restarting the watch. None of this works. This is with the current Connect app under iOS

  100. Reply Mike Sep 1,2019 18:51

    What are the plans to support the Garmin fenix 6 series?

    • Reply Peter Sep 1,2019 19:09

      There currently is no SDK which supports building for the Fenix 6 series, hopefully this is available soon 🙂

  101. Reply Matt Sep 7,2019 14:42

    Any updates for the Fenix 6X? thanks a lot for the great work!

  102. Reply Will Sep 10,2019 21:06

    I’m having an issue where I need to enter the longitude as a negative value but garmin IQ tells me that only letters and numbers are allowed if I include the – symbol. I tried copying the value off in case I was entering it wrong but got the same message.

    • Reply Peter Sep 11,2019 08:35

      Yes I can’t do anything about that, it’s a bug in the new connect iq app on iOS…

      The workaround is to uninstall the “Connect IQ” app and then to use Garmin Connect Mobile iOS to edit the settings (the connect mobile app has to be at least version 4.22.2 to not have the other bug that affected saving settings…)….

  103. Reply Matt Sep 12,2019 01:24

    Hi, any updates on the Data Lover watch face for the Fēnix 6X? My watch isn’t worth anything without it. Thanks!

    • Reply Peter Sep 12,2019 07:13

      I’m estimating it’s gonna be something for next week, I have many apps to update and the sdk was only released on monday.

  104. Reply Matt Sep 14,2019 13:40

    Peter- thrilled to have Data Lover on my Garmin Fenix 6X, it looks even better with the larger screen! Thanks for all of your hard work to make it happen! I absolutely love it!

  105. Reply Freddy Strand Sep 16,2019 13:42

    Hi Peter!
    How do I change the wind speed from km/h til m/s?

  106. Reply Jamie Sep 16,2019 15:42

    Hey Peter,

    When i try to put a negative number in the longitude section in the settings i get an error that says “only letters and numbers are allowed. It also will not allow me to add a period. I am on an android

  107. Reply Freddy Sep 16,2019 17:26

    How do I change wind speed from km/h to m/s?

  108. Reply Grave Oct 1,2019 12:51

    Hello Peter,
    i can’t set GPS to home adress. When i tried to make (DOT) 49.xxxxx it says “Only letters and numers are allowed”. How can write this value? I tried 49dotxxxx but it is not funcional. I get location from here – . Can you please help me set my city at watches? Thanks.

  109. Reply Choosed Oct 3,2019 17:07

    I want to have a dual time, however I cannot get the minus (-) to work. My iPhone opens the regular numerical keyboard and all I have is a comma which causes NaN. Any suggestions?

  110. Reply Rob Oct 6,2019 20:04

    I don’t know if the Fenix 6 sdk offers access to the estimated battery life but it would be a great addition to the data fields options

  111. Reply Benjamin Oct 11,2019 17:05

    I can’t find the “custom text”?
    I set the text and also the colour – but where does the text appear?

    • Reply Peter Oct 11,2019 18:32

      This is only available in Field 4. When showing weather you also have to tick the override Field 4 checkbox

  112. Reply rizal Oct 12,2019 03:16

    Hi Peter,

    i’ve tried (for several times) to send you the 3 euro donation via paypal, but it didn’t work at all. the message says “please try it again later”

    any solution?

  113. Reply Rizal Oct 12,2019 12:28

    Hi Peter, its me again!

    i just successfully to donate you via buymeacoffee.

    looking forward the key from you


  114. Reply Pitthaya Oct 13,2019 11:13

    I just make donate for 3 euro but didn’t mention Data Lover, am I still get the donation code?

  115. Reply Stephen MacNaughton Oct 18,2019 09:35

    Hi Peter, are you by any chance working on an Always On option for use with the Venu?

    • Reply Peter Oct 18,2019 13:43

      I have implemented this in my development version, always on will be included in the next release in a few days.

  116. Reply Matt Chen Oct 20,2019 01:26

    Hi Peter,
    I just made a donation via Paypal and looking forward to getting the key from you.

    Best Regards,

  117. Reply Ismael Oct 23,2019 11:57

    Hi Peter

    I would like to donate, but the PayPal Fee is veeery high for me (+10 Euro)
    Is there another possibility to donate? Revolut or Google pay or something?

    I really like the app!

    Best regards

  118. Reply George Nov 3,2019 18:39

    Coffee sent! 🙂

  119. Reply James Morris Nov 8,2019 16:28

    A wonderful watch face, I’ve come to rely upon it chiefly and have learned to be patient with it. Eventually, I’ve managed all my hiccups. I’ve just noted that the settings menu now offers pressure in inches of mercury units that I work best in. It is perhaps too soon to say that there is a bug, but the display only shows”30” when the actual measurement is “30.24” inches.
    Will this clear up on update or did I miss a setting for precision or number of digits?

    • Reply Peter Nov 8,2019 19:47

      Glad you like it James. It’s actually on purpose that there are no decimals on the pressure value. It runs through the same code for all unit displays and rounds it off to the nearest whole number. I understand that you’d prefer a decimal value, but in Connect Iq it’s always balancing things out in favor to not to use too much memory (every code command you type takes away from the total memory space).

  120. Reply Tanim Nov 9,2019 12:47

    Hi Peter, thank you for your comment. I still can’t change settings on Forerunner 45. It keeps saying “there’s a problem communicating to your Garmin device”😭

    • Reply Peter Nov 9,2019 13:44

      settings are server side on garmin’s end, I don’t have any influence there…

      try the following:
      – uninstall the new “connect iq” mobile app
      – start garmin connect mobile
      – uninstall data lover
      – reinstall data lover
      – try to access settings again

  121. Reply Tom Nov 19,2019 18:11

    I have a Vivoactive 3 and have enjoyed the Data Lover face. However, a few days ago, the temp stopped updating. I have a donation code and have it set to update every 15 minutes. I’m familiar with the need to update GPS via starting a run, which has worked in the past traveling to different cities.

    I’ve carefully followed the steps in the FAQ, but no luck. Also, updated Garmin Connect, Connect IQ store and uninstalled/reinstalled Data Lover. Any suggestions to get the temp working?

  122. Reply Josh Dec 6,2019 01:17

    Almost perfect!! If you can have the option to show active and total calories separately I would 100% donate to get this app.

  123. Reply Mikael Dec 22,2019 23:46

    This watchface is really growing on me. Thanks for a great product. I had an idea – I didn’t like being forced to choose between Location, Humidity, Time, Wind etc when using the weather field. Would it be possible to have one alternating field with all different types of data (eg ‘show sync time and location, and switch between them on a 5s interval’)?

    • Reply Peter Dec 27,2019 13:11

      It’s possible. But it all comes down to memory and features to still implement. Every line of code consumes memory and I have very little left. But I’ll consider your suggestion and put it on my backlog.

      • Reply Mikael Apr 7,2020 18:29

        When the weather’s sync is shown in red – could that also be an indication that the sync did not occur when it was suppose to (e.g. lack of bluetooth connection?). Or is it only due to errors in syncing?


  124. Reply Clément Dec 25,2019 18:08

    I would like the day in French, is it possible ?

  125. Reply JM Dec 27,2019 05:44

    When will Body Battery be a data option to use on this watch face?

  126. Reply Chris Dec 28,2019 13:50

    Hi, is training load exposed to the Connect IQ API? Would be awesome if the graph could have daily training load if available. Thanks for a great watch face

  127. Reply Philip Dec 29,2019 10:37

    Hi, is it possible to make the first letters of the weather words upper case? It says “broken clouds” can you make it like “Broken Clouds”. The inner OC in me is itching. Haha. Btw, thanks for the donation code, I got it.

  128. Reply David Dec 30,2019 00:11

    The donate link you provided takes me to a page – NOT Then password will not work with I tried to log in. Made me quite nervous, so I cannot donate that way. Do you have a true account that I can use within the site?

  129. Reply Lincoln Jan 2,2020 18:13

    Hi Peter, here in the UK, we like to mix metric & imperial units all the time. It’s annoying but… with weather / wind option selected, I can set temp to F or C. C is preferred but also wind speed changes to k/h where mph is preferred (watch system unit setting is miles). Is there any way to set C and mph?

    Thanks for a great W/F anyhow.

    • Reply Peter Jan 2,2020 21:15

      at the moment it’s not possible, but I hope at some point to be able to offer the choice of wind unit via an app setting.

  130. Reply Lincoln Jan 3,2020 15:33

    OK thanks. I’ll look forward to it.

  131. Reply Matt Jan 4,2020 14:56

    Hi Peter. I was wondering what the exact different is between two different bottom charts “Hr Graph + Min-Max Hr (impacts battery life)” and “Hr Graph (Past hour)”. It looks like they both display a min/max and the graph updates regularly on the watch face. So is the second option really better for battery life?

    • Reply Peter Jan 4,2020 15:37

      Hr Graph + Min-Max Hr is a heart rate graph that updates every 3 seconds, so it’ll show your heart rate history of about the last 2 minutes. As this needs intra-minute updates it’ll also impact battery life.

      Hr Graph (Past Hour) is a heart rate graph that graphs the internal watch hr graph history, it needs less processing and it only updates every minute so it’ll be better for battery.

  132. Reply Legrand Jan 5,2020 10:36

    Great watch face, thanks Peter. Probably a very stupid question but I can‘t find the answer: how to toggle between the two screens you show above on a Fenix 5? I can only see the first one. Thanks.

  133. Reply Mark Thornton Jan 5,2020 19:31

    Hi .. the watch face seems to have bricked my watch .. Forerunner 735XT
    Frozen at 18:13h and none of the buttons work .. won’t connect via USB or Bluetooth .. I have messaged via the developer link on IQ App but would appreciate some advice 😬

  134. Reply Es Jan 6,2020 04:37

    Would you consider allowing “hide” or “none” as an option for all the points on the face? I really like the watchface, but I wish I could hide some of the elements.

    • Reply Warwick Feb 4,2020 00:39

      I was going to ask for the same thing – I like the design and the fields I can display – but for a few fields there are lots of options but nothing I need – having some black space would make it more readable.
      I don’t really need weather or the move circles – could NONE be an option here ?

      • Reply Peter Feb 4,2020 15:56

        I’ll be adding this option soonish, at least for the graph options of the watch face 🙂

  135. Reply Vadmin Jan 6,2020 13:19

    2 days now the face it not update the weather!!

    • Reply Peter Jan 6,2020 14:39

      I really can’t tell more than to read faq q1…
      You can set up a debug session but it will only confirm that for example your garmin connect mobile isn’t running.

  136. Reply Dave Jan 12,2020 23:17

    Love the app, but I can’t get the date to be accurate (it says today is Sunday 12/1 but it is Sunday 1/12. Tried starting a GPS activity to see if that helps but got nothing. Thoughts?

    • Reply Peter Jan 13,2020 10:51

      In the application settings you can choose to set the date format to day/month or month/day. See the faq above on a how to to access the settings.

  137. Reply Warwick Feb 10,2020 06:29

    Could Average steps across the week be displayed as an option in one of the 3 bottom fields ?

  138. Reply Lincoln Feb 13,2020 23:31

    Thanks for adding the wind speed km/h mph option!

  139. Reply Yonatan Feb 27,2020 14:03

    Hi, I love Data Lover! This morning I made the donation, how long does it take to send the password?

  140. Reply Mario A. Feb 29,2020 13:17

    I would like to activate Data Lover, but unfortunately I do not use PayPal. Only have a credit card. Can you help me unlock Data Lover? Thank you!

  141. Reply Pedro Mar 4,2020 18:31

    What source are you using to obtain the weather?

  142. Reply Peter Mar 4,2020 19:33


  143. Reply Allen Mar 7,2020 18:10

    Hi, Garmin rolled out the Body Battery feature. Any chance this will be supported?

  144. Reply Anthony Mar 8,2020 15:36

    I have a donation code. I’ve followed ALL the instructions. Weather simply does NOT ever update unless I reinstall. This watch face is advertised as full service but clearly not. Very frustrating and ready to give up. What am I missing ?

    • Reply Peter Mar 8,2020 16:42

      All is explained in faq q1 really, especially the fact that GARMIN CONNECT MOBILE must run ALL THE TIME is very important.

      To get additional information about when and which data is retrieved you can set up a debug session (see bottom faq)

  145. Reply Mark Goodrich Mar 9,2020 22:43

    Is there a way to make seconds reading larger?

  146. Reply Juan Mar 15,2020 21:19

    Hi Peter. Just bought you a coffee!
    BTW I can’t change the temp units to Celsius even I’ve changed them in the Garmin Settings. Could you please tell me what to do? Thanks!

    • Reply Peter Mar 15,2020 21:35

      the unit change settings only apply on the next successful internet request

      • Reply Juan Mar 16,2020 10:50

        I have tried to manually connect the Garmin to my WiFi but the temperature units keep on F. The connection was successful but nothing changes. Am I doing something wrong?

        • Reply Peter Mar 16,2020 12:59

          the internet request goes through garmin connect mobile over bluetooth only, it does not use wifi (see q1). the internet request is also only happening at regular intervals (see q3).

          you can set your right chart to weather + time last update to see what the last interval was. when the time is white the internet request succeeded, when the time is red it failed.

  147. Reply j42k Mar 26,2020 04:41

    “Do not disturb” is not showing up in the icons area. Any special trick too get it to show up? Using Forerunner 945.

    • Reply Peter Mar 26,2020 08:07

      It’s been on my to do to add this for a while, it’ll be in one of the next releases.

  148. Reply Mikael Apr 7,2020 18:25

    The Weather description no longer works on my Fenix 5+ Sapphire. It only returns an integer (I have been seeing 0 and 62 for the last few days). I have tried restarting the watch, switching watch face back and forth, change weather settings back and forth but nothing has solved it. Any idea what’s going on?


  149. Reply Mark Goodrich Apr 10,2020 20:09

    Is it possible to populate one of the fields with Pulse Ox readings?

  150. Reply Stephen Ball Apr 10,2020 20:09

    Hello, I have a Marq Athlete, which displays seconds. However, the downloaded app Data Lover is not displaying seconds. Can you advise how to correct this? Thanks!

  151. Reply Jerry Burgess Apr 11,2020 16:38

    Hello Peter. I have used data lover for a while. Yesterday I noticed the nag mess had returned and my donation key was missing. So this morning I donated again and neglected to put Data Lover in the notes. Will you please fix this? Thank you in advance.

  152. Reply Gil Apr 18,2020 11:42

    Hello Peter. It’s not possible to enter any value in the “Secondary Time Zone”, in the parameters of Data Lover. I tried it on Android app, with 2 different phone/tablet : same problem

    • Reply Peter Apr 18,2020 14:30

      The problem is situated in the new “connect iq” mobile app, if you use “garmin connect mobile” on your phone to edit settings or “garmin express” on a computer it’ll work.

      • Reply Gil Apr 18,2020 19:25

        OK thanks for information. Did you alert Garmin about this bug?

      • Reply Gil Apr 19,2020 07:04

        Did you alert Garmin about this bug?

        • Reply Peter Apr 19,2020 13:15

          I made a ticket yes, but as that’s no guarantee for success, I’ve also implemented a workaround to store the value as a string instead of as a float. The workaround fix will be part of the next Data Lover release (and in fact the workaround fix currently already available in the “Data Lover (public beta)” release)

  153. Reply Georg Apr 19,2020 16:51

    Hello Peter, I like your app and I’m currently testing it after I used the “ActiFace” app.
    The only thing I’m missing is the history of the last week the ActiFace has (e.g. show both calories and distance of the past 7 days + current). It would be great to have this in the bar chart at the bottom. Thank you!

  154. Reply Heiko May 4,2020 13:12

    Hello! First: beautiful and useful watch face.
    Question: is it possible to disable / leave empty an info field.

  155. Reply Laurentiu May 4,2020 20:49

    Hello Petter,
    I use Data Lover skin for more than one year and I like it very much.
    Thank you for a great job.
    I have a question. It is possible to show in the Right Chart field the date ( day of the month )
    I’m starting to have vision problems a “Big Date” it will help me a lot.

  156. Reply Chris May 8,2020 23:49

    Hi Peter, awesome watchface! Gonna be my daily driver 🙂 Donated right away.
    After playing a bit with the options a couple ideas & questions came to my mind:

    1) Date format
    Could you add a format with dots as used in most European Countries , e.g. “20.5.” instead of “20/5”?

    2) Localisation
    Would it be possible to localize the 3-letter weekday names according to the set watch languange? Specifically interested in German here 🙂

    3) Special characters in weather city name
    My city/district contains special (but common german) character ‘ß’ which gets displayed as ‘A’ on the watch. Any idea why that might be? Wrong encoding of the weather API data? Displaying special characters ‘ÄäÖöÜüß’ as Free Text works fine though…

    4) Weather (Right Chart)
    It seems another data field could fit in the Right Chart when the temperature value would be slightly reduced. Could you add more options to show, e.g. “Temp & Wind & City” or “Temp & Humidity & Last update”? Or even make it configurable which combination of weather data to display?

    5) Question about battery drain
    Does showing heart rate and seconds simultaneously drain the battery more than just showing one of the two?

    Thanks for your hard work and keep it up!
    Looking forward to future improvements

    • Reply Peter May 9,2020 15:44

      1. It’s unlikely that I will provide an alternative date separation symbol as this would require a custom setting + custom code. Both custom settings and custom code cause the memory print of your app to get larger (and I only have very limited memory left).

      2. This has been on my to do list for a few years, I’ll get to it, but not sure when.

      3. I have a UTF8 decoding routine in Data Lover which translates special characters to their non special character counterfit eg é -> e. It looks like openweathermap doesn’t deliver the utf8 properly and is sometimes using 2 characters to represent one character. It’s on my to do to (try to) fix this.

      4. More possibilities for the right chart are high on my to do, normally this should make it into the next major version of Data Lover.

      5. Battery drain is minimal for small text fields, it helps to reduce battery drain further if you put the fields that need intra-minute updating to be close to one another. The battery drain for the live heart rate chart is a little bit more as it’s a larger area to update, but the live hr chart is a cool and unique feature which only the Data Lover watch face has.

  157. Reply Ruslan May 13,2020 13:24

    Hi Peter,

    Great watch face! Thank you. Can one have a current hydration level displayed as an option please?

  158. Reply Oliver May 29,2020 18:40

    Hi Peter – yours is my favorite – and I tried a lot! But one big wish: Could you make sunrise/sunset available for configuration in the other fields (like in most other watch faces). And just show the next sunrise/sunset in one field? That would make your watch face really perfect…

  159. Reply Vaclav Jun 1,2020 14:30

    Hello Peter, is there any possibility to show weekly running stats on the face?
    (How many km I run in the current week?)

    Many thanks,

    • Reply Peter Jun 1,2020 15:03

      I’d love to add that, but this is unfortunately not exposed to connect iq api. Only steps and distance (combined distance of the day) are exposed. A bar chart of steps of the week is already present, a bar chart of distances of the past week is something that I plan to add (but this will include the distances you walk to your desk etc too, it will not only be running distance).

      • Reply Vaclav Jun 2,2020 09:52

        Hi Peter, OK, this is interesting as far it’s a standard part of the garmin’s own faces… For me a basic one as it motivates me to follow the set goals… However, otherwise, I love your app… Vaclav

        • Reply Peter Jun 2,2020 10:06

          I know and I agree, I’ve asked for the addition to the api many years ago, but till now it hasn’t made it.

          • Reply Vaclav Jun 9,2020 12:04

            Hello Peter,
            sorry again, however I’ve additional point. It seems to me that this widget uses a kind of week running data…

            Isn’t possible to use the same API at least for running?

            Many thanks,

          • Reply Peter Jun 9,2020 12:13

            yes that widget will show the distance you did all day (including walking, running and just strolling around the office), it will not show only your running distance

          • Reply Vaclav Jun 9,2020 14:39

            OK, thanks and sorry for doubts. I’ve come back to the standard watchface due to the need to see the run km’s in the week…:-() Anyway, your app is quite nice…

  160. Reply edif57 Jun 2,2020 22:24

    Hello Peter,
    Just installed Data Lover – very nice watch face, will wait a day to see about battery life.
    One NOTE: wind speed in knots should read ‘kt’, not ‘k/h’. Knot is a unit of SPEED, meaning “nautical mile pre hour”, so ‘knots/hour’ is the same as ‘miles per hour per hour’:-)

    • Reply Peter Jun 3,2020 04:22

      The wind speed unit is cached together with the value, on the next successful internet request it should update to “kts”, see FAQ q1 regarding the 4 conditions for the weather to be able to update.

  161. Reply Danai Jun 3,2020 12:11

    Hi Peter,

    I noticed that the app doesn’t have a 24 hour (military) clock. I’m willing to make a donation for this to be added as I love everything else about the face!


    • Reply Peter Jun 3,2020 12:45

      hi Danai, the option is there already, albeit it’s a bit “hidden”.

      To activate military time make the following adjustments:
      – In the System settings on the watch set the Time to 24 hours.
      – In the Application settings of Data Lover set “Leading Zero” to “On” And set “Show Colon” to “Off”

  162. Reply Andrew Jun 7,2020 02:29


    I’ma big fan of the watch face but I just started having problem where the humidity symbol doesn’t display. Instead I get a square next to the humidity percent. I tried changing the weather display, rebooting and switch watch faces back and forth but the problem persists. Any thoughts on how to make the icon draw? I’m using a fenix 6x. Thanks!

  163. Reply Vicente Jun 18,2020 16:40

    Hello, I always face a problem in my Garmin Forerunner 235. When pausing the recording of an activity and the watch enters in saving energy mode, the main screen appears. If I enter to the activity (to stop&save it or to continue it), the watch freezes and after a while, resets. I checked that this do not occurs in other watch faces. Gretings and gret job!

  164. Reply Baldus Jun 25,2020 15:12

    Hey Peter, is there an option to change names of days of the week.
    They on English now but i wish to change them on Polish

  165. Reply Baldus Jun 26,2020 06:13

    I thought I could do it somewhere in the files but I did not find the right line to replace thats why. I ask
    BTW you made awsome work, asap my Paypal
    Gonna be active i will made donate 🙂

  166. Reply Vicente Jul 3,2020 06:44

    Regarding the error I reported, I have the file CIQ_LOG.TXT in log folder, but last modification of the file was before the last error I got. Anyway maybe there are information about my same previous errors. Here you have the log:

    ERROR: Circular Dependency Error
    STORE_ID: a58303e8b0a84387ba1c519a648d3b70

    ERROR: Circular Dependency Error
    STORE_ID: a58303e8b0a84387ba1c519a648d3b70

    ERROR: Out Of Memory Error
    STORE_ID: 779bb6d82fae43e1bbb656aadee08c60
    ERROR: Out Of Memory Error
    STORE_ID: 779bb6d82fae43e1bbb656aadee08c60

    ERROR: Circular Dependency Error
    STORE_ID: a58303e8b0a84387ba1c519a648d3b70

    ERROR: Circular Dependency Error
    STORE_ID: a58303e8b0a84387ba1c519a648d3b70

    ERROR: Out Of Memory Error
    STORE_ID: 779bb6d82fae43e1bbb656aadee08c60

  167. Reply Vicente Jul 3,2020 06:48

    Another (little) bug I found is when the day changes at 0:00h, the graph of the daily steps does not shift one position, so the last bar gets empty for he new day but the bar of the previous day dos not appear. In order to show the bar of the previous day, I have to move to another screen (i.e. go to heart rate history screen) and come back to the main screen.

    Best regards.

  168. Reply Peter Jul 3,2020 11:25

    The errors you see in the log are from other apps (Gearmin and yet another competition field). If yet another competition field is part of your running profile it could be an explanation. Try it without or with another all in one running field.

    I’m aware of the steps not always schifting position. According to the source code i wrote it should… it’s on my todo to look at it.

    Cheers Peter

  169. Reply Vicente Jul 6,2020 12:34

    ok, thx!

  170. Reply Bill Jul 12,2020 12:55

    Can the Language be changed to German?

  171. Reply dave Jul 19,2020 12:06

    Nice watch face.
    My watch is showing the temprature at 13 degrees, according to garmin is 18 degree.

    My watch is synced, blue tooth is working, its logging my steps, so the watch can see the outside world. Is there an easy to see if the last time I sync was done to a data source?

    • Reply Peter Jul 19,2020 14:04

      you can change the right chart option to Weather + Time Last Update to see when the last weather update was executed. (When the time is in red color the update failed)

  172. Reply John Aug 4,2020 06:59

    Is it possible to change the time notation of DataLover to 24-hour notation?

  173. Reply Mike Aug 17,2020 12:01

    Mike Aug 17,2020 11:59
    Thanks for a great watch face.
    Is there a way to set your home altitude so watch knows the correct altitude versus a high or low pressure? I figure if you have a set altitude then the watch will have a baseline for the days run, walk or whatever?

    • Reply Peter Aug 17,2020 19:11

      This can’t be done in the watch face. On some watches you can calibrate the barometer. I think this is situated somewhere in the settings.

  174. Reply Mike Aug 17,2020 18:52

    Is there a way to set your home altitude so that the calculated altitude has a base pressure to start with?
    Ie my home altitude varies with air pressure

  175. Reply AA Aug 18,2020 12:01

    Mail icon – Always on

    The watch face is always showing the mail icon in the status icon field (when i do and don’t have new emails. How do I fix this?

  176. Reply Mike Hensen Aug 21,2020 11:17

    Hi Peter, I’ve donated just a heads up mhensen at postmedia dot com

  177. Reply Duncan Aug 22,2020 14:25

    Hi Peter, just a heads up I donated. Is there a way to add an option to have feels like temperature instead of the air temperature? Thanks.

  178. Reply Barjoa Aug 25,2020 06:50

    Hi Peter

    On the top left side, sometimes I have this symbol “ø” near bluetooth, watch does it mean? How can I remove it?
    Thanks for the answer 😊

    • Reply Peter Aug 25,2020 07:08

      It’s the Do Not Disturb icon, it appears during your preconfigured sleep time and also when you set it manually to DND.

  179. Reply Barjoa Aug 26,2020 05:09


  180. Reply Janos Sep 4,2020 09:55


    It’s a very useful clock face. Is there any way, to display the Golden Hour and Blue Hour starting time or interval in the ‘Field Bottom Gauge Left and Right?


  181. Reply Colleen Sep 5,2020 21:37

    Can someone explain how the move circles work, please? I noticed a small red semi-circle so I got up to move. I walked around my house while reading a magazine. I wasn’t going fast as I am dressed for church and don’t want to arrive sweaty. I took about 500 steps but now all of my circles are red. What do I have to do to get them back to white? I already ran 4 miles today. I tried replacing that icon with weather but I think my garmin 45 is not a “connect IQ 2 or 3” so it will not display weather. That’s OK, it’s on my widgets.

    • Reply Peter Sep 6,2020 07:56

      the move detection is done by the Garmin firmware. I think you also need to swing your arms for in order to Garmin to register it as movement.

      the forerunner 45 indeed does not support weather on the watch face.

      • Reply Colleen Sep 7,2020 16:29

        Thank you, swinging my arms like a mad-woman worked. IS there any way to turn that move circle off? I would like to be able to watch a movie without worrying about bouncing up and down every hour to get in a bit of activity. I get plenty of exercise and I get all my steps and then some every day.

  182. Reply Mike Hensen Sep 10,2020 16:48

    Hi Peter, I’ve donated and weather and everything works great my only thing is the bars representing day and night, where I live right now the sunrise and sunset are within about 44 minutes ie 7am and 7:44pm yet the line before sunrise (on left, white) is much longer than the white line that begins after the sun has set on the right, shouldn’t these be virtually symmetrical at this point? Ie equal length white lines rep midnight to sunrise and sunset to midnight? Thanks for all your work,

    • Reply Peter Sep 10,2020 17:53

      the graph represents the time from midnight till midnight, so from midnight till 7am this is 7 parts, from 8pm till 12pm this is 4 parts

  183. Reply Jesper Philipp Oct 4,2020 10:23

    Hi Peter – Just one thing – Wind speed must be in m/s (meter per second). All people sailing, rowing or kayaking are using m/s… that’s the stardard for measuring wind.

    • Reply Peter Oct 10,2020 14:36

      you should be able to select m/s in the wind unit within the application settings of Data Lover (see faq q12 above for how to access the settings)

  184. Reply Gil Oct 16,2020 18:46

    How do I get the steps/stairs history graph at the bottom as in the right example picture? I only see option for steps.

    • Reply Peter Oct 17,2020 06:13

      if the option is not available then your device does not support this to show this within a watch face. For stairs to be available your device must be connect iq 2.1 and have a barometer.

  185. Reply Sebastian Oct 19,2020 08:07

    Just downloaded it. When I donate your work, does the Like it? Donate! disappear?

  186. Reply Chad Oct 19,2020 14:20

    Hi Peter,

    This is the best watch face, thanks for the effort.
    I have Vivoactive 4s. I see an icon (circle and line through it) on top of the screen (on the left of the Bluetooth icon). Can you help me understand what this icon means and how to update/delete it?


    • Reply Peter Oct 26,2020 14:44

      this is the do not disturb icon, it’s visible when you’re in predefined sleep time or when you turn dnd on

  187. Reply Ben Oct 25,2020 20:32

    Hi Peter,

    love the watch face! One quick question and one suggestion:

    1) The app setting allow to choose either Garmin or OpenWeather as data sources. Any suggestion which one is more accurate/ prefarable?

    2) If I choose Garmin weather as provider and as setting then “weather and city”, the watch face does not display just the city name, but also the country. Obviously, this way too long to display, which looks kind of weird. Nothing major, but maybe there is a way to fix this in an upcoming release.

    • Reply Peter Oct 26,2020 14:47

      1/ depends on your location. Openweathermap has more city names, but depends on a good connection with your phone and the mobile app.

      2/ I plan to truncate the location name at the comma if there’s one present in the string.

  188. Reply Bernhard Oct 25,2020 20:33

    Hello it seems that sunrise info is -1hour after the change to winter time in Germany.
    Any chance to fix that

    • Reply Peter Oct 26,2020 14:48

      known issue. the sunrise is only calculation at midnight, it’ll be ok as of tomorrow 🙂

  189. Reply Tudor Nov 1,2020 20:29

    Hello Petter,
    I use Data Lover skin for more than two years and I like it very much.
    Thank you for a great job.

    It is possible to show in the Right Chart field the date (day of the month ) big font.
    I understood that is already on ypur “to do list” but it’s not clear if/when it will implemented

    • Reply Peter Nov 8,2020 07:12

      hi Tudor, to be honest it’s not clear to me either when I’ll get to do it (it’s not at the top of my list). A second problem is that I may not have enough memory left to implement it (I’m near the border of memory allowed)

  190. Reply Stuart Nov 9,2020 23:38

    Hi Peter-

    Love the watch face and donated immediately. Every time there is an update, my donation key is removed and some of the display settings are changed. Is there something I should be doing to prevent this or is it on the Garmin side?

    Thanks for your help.

    • Reply Peter Dec 5,2020 07:37

      This is something on the Garmin side which sometimes resets all settings to the default when there’s an update.

  191. Reply Gene "Swede" Peterson Nov 14,2020 20:21

    Hello Peter, have made a donation to your wonderful watch face. Question: How do I get the free text to show on my Tactix Delta Solar? Thanks, Swede

    • Reply Peter Dec 5,2020 07:38

      the free text option is (only) available in the top right field, normally this field is set to weather condition, change this to free text to show your custom text.

  192. Reply Rares Nov 16,2020 09:07


    Any ideea why after unistaling this face in few minutes it is back again installed, without doing anything. Verry annoying. Thanks

    • Reply Peter Dec 5,2020 07:40

      This is an issue in Garmin’s mobile app, they have been notified about the issue and they say they have resolved it in an upcoming version.

      A workaround which works today is to use Garmin Express on a computer.

  193. Reply Travis Dec 5,2020 03:36


    This is a not only a fantastic watch face, but I really appreciate your attentiveness to these questions and replies, as well as a thorough FAQ. So worth the donation, and so above-and-beyond the average attention to detail I come across too often these days.

    I have one question, and it may be dumb: There is discrepancy between the min/max elevation chart I am using and the altitude display I am also using. The altitude is consistently displaying valus greater than the max displayed in the 4-hour tracking. Is one GPS-based and the other barometric-based?

    Pleae know – not a complaint – this is a brilliant watch face, and is as close to what my brain really wants as I’ve seen. I tip my cap to you.


    • Reply Peter Dec 5,2020 11:02

      The values come from 2 different sources in the API, but both should normally be barometric, so it’s odd that the data from altitude is consistently reported as being more.

      from the docs:
      – altitude: The altitude above mean sea level in meters (m). Elevation is derived from the most accurate source: Barometer or GPS

      – elevation history: Get the elevation history for the given period, up to the last power cycle. This function always returns the most recent pressure samples. The time between each SensorSample in the iterator may be device dependent

      • Reply Travis Dec 8,2020 05:53

        Thanks – it’s an odd thing for sure. FWIW, and if it helps: if I select “current value” as the text over the chart, the values match perfectly. Appreciate your reply. By far this is the best watch face out there.


  194. Reply John-Mark Dec 13,2020 14:09

    I’ve been using this great watch face for a while now and I love it. I can’t see myself using any other one. I can’t figure out one thing though. How do I remove the “move bar” and replace it with weather? Is that setting located in a different spot than all the other customizations? Or is my watch, Forerunner 45 not capable of this feature?

    • Reply Peter Dec 13,2020 14:15

      your watch is unfortunately not capable of this feature (see faq q5 above)

      • Reply John-Mark Dec 13,2020 15:03

        Thanks for the quick reply. I was worried that was the case. That’s what I get for not getting a higher end watch. Lol

  195. Reply Johan Dec 21,2020 13:50

    Hi Peter, I have a Fenix 5.
    Your Data Lover is one of the better ones out there
    I entered the right Lat and Long but the sunset times are wrong.
    Can you maybe add the option of watch temperature instead of internet temperature?

    • Reply Peter Dec 21,2020 15:54

      have you used to look up the coordinates

      the problem with the watch sensor temp is that it’s influenced by body temperature (and is as a result pretty meaningless to what it means for environment temperature)

  196. Reply fireboy1919 Dec 28,2020 21:28

    Hey, I looked all over the site, but I can’t find any info about it.

    Two questions:
    1. It looks like the OpenWeather API gives four day, hourly forecasts in one go (or at least, they advertise that they have that).

    How much of that data are you using? Obviously the next 10 hours of data is always going to match the predictions pretty well.

    2. I notice that there is a sync delegate class:

    If when the moment to update comes, you miss the chance of updating because you aren’t connected, do you *only* wait until the next interval, or are you also trying it the next time the user syncs?

    This isn’t my area of expertise; I’m just pulling these things from the reference docs. If you aren’t doing either of these and have a good reason, I’d love to know what keeps that from working/being easy to do.

    • Reply Peter Dec 29,2020 16:50

      The forecast response from the openweathermap api is too large to handle within the limited memory of connect iq. For forecasts it’s always data from the Garmin weather provider which is used.

      The weather updates only happen at the set interval times.

  197. Reply Teppo Dec 29,2020 11:29


    Really love this watch face with all its customization possibilities!

    However, one bug appeared either a) since the last update (pre 19th of Dec) or then due to setting changes either in the iPhone or then in the watch itself. The problem is with the sunrise/sunset top bar: night is yellow and day is gray (default theme settings). Also, despite re-installing and enabling GPS the bug persists. Any tips or updates? I have Fenix 6X Pro.

    Muchos gracias


    • Reply Peter Dec 29,2020 16:51

      this is odd, did you provide a gps location in the app settings? if so did you use the values as returned by

      I’d advice to uninstall data lover, make sure it’s not on the device, reinstall data lover, don’t set a lat/lon in the settings, start a run activity and wait for green gps, return to the data lover watch face

      • Reply Teppo Dec 29,2020 19:39

        Thanks Peter for the reply.

        I did as you advised, but it didn’t provided the fix.

        I had previously forced the latlon and it worked fine. I just realized that the problem occurred whilst doing an exercise in a different city. My wife didn’t and her watch face remained as OK as before (Venu).

        Besides the sun colour bug also the gap between the sunrise and sunset is too wide compared to my wife’s watch, which is ok. In the morning the sun gauge shows that sun has already risen despite it hasn’t. Could the problem be with cache?


  198. Reply Teppo Dec 29,2020 19:38

    Thanks Peter for the reply.

    I did as you advised, but it didn’t provided the fix.

    I had previously forced the latlon and it worked fine. I just realized that the problem occurred whilst doing an exercise in a different city. My wife didn’t and her watch face remained as OK as before (Venu).

    Besides the sun colour bug also the gap between the sunrise and sunset is too wide compared to my wife’s watch, which is ok. In the morning the sun gauge shows that sun has already risen despite it hasn’t. Could the problem be with cache?


    • Reply Peter Dec 30,2020 05:27

      not really. not sure why the sun calculation doesn’t work properly for your position.

      the alternative way to fix it would be to set the location in the app settings (and to disallow override by gps).

  199. Reply Alex Dec 31,2020 09:37

    Hi, Peter! 1 month ago, suddenly a location disappeared. There are only empty squares instead of letters. I re-installed an app, but it didn’t help. Any thoughts, how to fix it?
    Thanks for this watch face, and a happy new year!

    • Reply Peter Dec 31,2020 10:22

      hi Alex this is an issue with the localisation process that I had to remove. For now I’d advise to use something else for the right chart option (eg set it to weather + forecast instead of city)

  200. Reply Alex Jan 1,2021 03:52

    Is there a chance, that the city will return someday?

    • Reply Peter Jan 1,2021 04:58

      It’s a problem in the Garmin library (it’s sending unicode characters as 2 seperate characters) that has forced me to remove the transliteration process, until that issue is fixed I can’t add my transliteration process back.

  201. Reply Bob Weikert Jan 3,2021 16:41

    Can I donate some other way then PayPal

  202. Reply Huy Jan 4,2021 03:38

    Can you help with changing the temp to celsius? Thanks so much

  203. Reply Ed Jan 14,2021 21:10

    Hi Peter. Great work with the watch face, love it! I’m having an issue with the line hr at the bottom. It was working but now its blank. Is there a fix for this? Thanks.

    • Reply Peter Jan 14,2021 22:30

      This only depends on your optical heart rate functioning. Does your heart rate update if you look at the hr widget?

      • Reply Ed Jan 18,2021 08:24

        Hi again. Yes it does. The hr bar chart works but not the line

        • Reply Peter Jan 18,2021 08:27

          The bar chart shows historical heart rate so that’s different. The active heart rate chart depends on your optical heart rate of the current moment functioning well. Something you could do is pick “line chart – hr” and a duration of 30 minutes which would also rely on historical heart rate.

  204. Reply Nguyen Tuan Long Jan 17,2021 05:08

    I want to donate to you, but in VN, we rarely use PAYPAL. Can I use master card. Please contact me with mail, thanks so much

  205. Reply Anthony Jan 19,2021 13:52

    Hi Peter, this is my favorite watch face by far, thank you for your work!

    A couple questions – Does the bar graph, when showing steps, show the last 7 days on a typical display of Sun-Sat, or is it Mon-Sun? Can it be changed?

    Also, the colors are blue/green, but why are the heights different? Is it representing totals? Could there be a line to show how much above below you were to your goals?

    Thanks again.

    • Reply Peter Jan 19,2021 15:02

      The bar graph shows the current day + the previous 6 days, so the days are ‘rolling’, you always see the last 7 days.

      The heights are indeed representing the total amount of eg steps. When the bar is blue it means you reached your goal for that day. (colors are configurable in settings).

      Drawing a line where your goal is isn’t easy because the goal can be different every day, so it would not be a straight line and it could look messy.

  206. Reply Fred Jan 24,2021 19:42

    Love the watch face. I am having trouble with the colors on the bottom gauge. I currently show steps and I am using a theme that has light grey and grey. I would prefer green and grey.


    • Reply Peter Jan 25,2021 10:09

      you can finetune the colors for goal completed and goal in progress. Additionally (I think) there’s also a hidden option to use the foreground color for the unfilled color if you start from a monochrome theme as base (night vision theme as base)

  207. Reply Kirby louis Jan 26,2021 17:53

    Are you working on a way for the temperature to be updated from the garmin weather widget? Manually updating gps to get the correct temp/location is very inefficient and convoluted. The temp in the watchface should sync with the garmin weather. It knows where you are and it’s more accurate.

    • Reply Peter Jan 29,2021 13:40

      Data Lover already supports Garmin Weather, but this is only available if your watch has connect iq 3.2 or newer (check on your watch System – About to see which version you have)

  208. Reply James Feb 12,2021 03:20

    Just got a new 6x after having 5x for years. Lost the ability to use my old one but this is a very good alternative to it. Happy with it so far, but use the “week of the year” a lot and it’s off by 1 week right now. Shows week 6 currently but it’s a weird year where the first week was 2 days this year. Can that be fixed?

  209. Reply Misha Feb 13,2021 02:45

    Hi, Peter,
    Thanks for your great fatchface-love it!
    Could u pls sent me my varification code again on my email?

  210. Reply Sylvanskier Feb 21,2021 13:44

    Is there a way to donate other than pAypal?

  211. Reply Rick Feb 22,2021 17:35


    What does the “Blue and Gold Hour” option for the Top Gauge do? I see it shows two times, one of which looks like it might be the sunset time, but I’m not sure what the significance of this is.



  212. Reply Kenny Feb 28,2021 09:20

    Hi, is there Amy way to sonate without pay pal

    I can’t use pay pal:(

  213. Reply Josh Feb 28,2021 15:15

    My status icons show a envelope next to the Bluetooth. I’m not sure what this is for.

    • Reply Peter Feb 28,2021 18:38

      this shows that you have unread notifications. dismiss the notifications from within the widget loop.

  214. Reply Jeff B Feb 28,2021 18:03

    I’m struggling with getting weather on my Fenix 3. I’ve down what was suggested but the only option I get for the Right Chart is Move Circles or Empty. There is not option for Weather. Help….

  215. Reply Jamie Mannion Mar 1,2021 19:58

    I donated but have not received a confirmation and the weather continues on the 4 hour cycle.
    When will the more frequent updates begin?

    Thanks Peter

    • Reply Peter Mar 1,2021 20:12

      I’ve forwarded the key to your email address. (you might want to fix your paypal default email address to make it your new address)

  216. Reply Hintea Dan Alexandru Mar 3,2021 07:17

    I’d love to have the Body Battery data field displayed on the watch face. I currently don’t see it in the list.

  217. Reply Scott Mar 3,2021 19:47

    Fantastic watch face! Quick question though: If I enter the latitude and longitude is it always going to show that city? In order for it to show the city that I am currently in should I remove that information and let the GPS figure it out?

    • Reply Peter Mar 4,2021 07:09

      no it will be used as initial location, if you want a fixed location you have to fill in the coordinates + turn the switch next to allow gps override to off.

  218. Reply Jakub Mar 9,2021 23:18

    Z emailu jsem zaslal dar, nepřišel mi ale žádný email. Děkuji

    • Reply Peter Mar 10,2021 04:26

      hi Jakub, I don’t see an entry for that email address in my paypal. Maybe your paypal is on a different email address? Contact me on with your paypal email or paypal transaction id and I’ll look it up.

  219. Reply Marc Mar 19,2021 16:18

    Hi Peter,

    Do you have a list (name and picture) of all the top icons that can show up?

  220. Reply Naikel Mar 21,2021 00:01

    Peter, I received an update yesterday and the weather stopped working. It just does not update and shows the same temperature than it last update.

    I enabled the debug file and all it says is “Settings changed”. No weather debug info at all. It does try to get weather info every 15 minutes since I can see the last update but always in red font, but no debug info.

    It seems I’m the only one with the issue otherwise I’d say that Yahoo blocked this app.

    • Reply Peter Mar 21,2021 04:51

      Can you try to completely uninstall data lover and then reinstall it to see if this resolve the issue? Let me know.

  221. Reply John Mar 21,2021 14:32

    I installed the latest update and the donation key is no longer working. I tried uninstalling and re installing and still not working…Great watch face by the way. I absolutely love it!

  222. Reply Rex Mar 22,2021 14:44

    What is the temperature chill mean?

  223. Reply Brandon Mar 23,2021 16:43

    I had a similar issue to the users above who could not get weather working. Mine stopped a week or so ago. I did the following to resolve it:

    – Removed Data Lovers watch face.
    – Restarted watch
    – Re-installed watch face
    – Configured it again though the Garmin Connect app rather than the Desktop Garmin Express app (the Garmin Express App in Windows does not seem to work right for sending settings to the watch face app for some reason)

    Hope that helps.

  224. Reply Raffaele bonacchi Mar 24,2021 19:44

    Hello. I would have some suggestions: 1. The day of the week is in English, could you also have in Italian like the month? 2. The intensity minutes could be seen as HH: mm? 3. Can the heart chart be longer in order to see the trend over time? Thanks for your attention; Greetings from Bonacchi Raffaele.

    • Reply Peter Mar 25,2021 08:43

      1. yes, reach out to me on to translate the texts to Italian.
      2. a disadvantage of this would be that the text gets wider and I don’t have a lot of space to show the fields. another disadvantage is that all extra code increases the memory pressure.
      3. yes, switch the graph type to the type “Line Chart: Heart Rate”

  225. Reply Alex Mar 25,2021 16:01

    This is a great watch face! I wish there were some health-related or activity-related field options on the right side where you can only choose from weather options or the move bar.

  226. Reply Jere Web Mar 25,2021 18:19

    I have been using Data Lover’s watch face on my Garmin Approach S60 for over a year. But now it is messed up and I get a message that says “can’t unlock maps” And none of my customization shows on the watch face. And I have lost my donation key!

  227. Reply Casey Wagner Mar 27,2021 15:04

    Hi Peter,

    I previously paid for the watch face to get rid of the donate scrolling thing, I recently had to uninstall and the reinstall and my old key doesn’t work anymore. Could you please let me know what to do to correct this?

    • Reply Peter Mar 27,2021 17:48

      your settings may be corrupted

      to fix:
      – switch to other watch face (long press middle left button on your watch)
      – uninstall data lover
      – reinstall data lover
      – reenter your donation key in the app settings

  228. Reply Narty Apr 2,2021 14:44

    Hi Peter, I like your Data Lover face and would like to donate you for a beer, but I don’t use PayPal. Do you have any other options? Revolut?

  229. Reply Gustavo Vilela Apr 25,2021 00:30

    Hi Peter! I just donated to Data Lover!
    Can you send me the code?
    Thank you so much!!

    Gustavo Vilela

  230. Reply Gustavo Vilela Apr 25,2021 00:38

    Hi Peter! I just donated to Data Lover, but I don’t think I mentioned it at the time of payment.
    Can you send me the code?
    Thank you so much!!

    Gustavo Vilela

  231. Reply Epoxyz May 1,2021 10:42

    hello could you tell me the usefulness of the semicircle cut in slice

  232. Reply Castro tavares May 5,2021 14:26

    There is a field that I would like to be able to include: HOURS OF RECOVERY FROM A TRAINING

    It’s possible?

  233. Reply Alex Spodarev May 13,2021 07:30

    Hi Peter! I just donated to Data Lover, but I don’t think I mentioned it at the time of payment.
    Can you send me the code?
    Thank you so much!!

    Alex Spodarev

  234. Reply Ilya May 13,2021 08:45

    Hey! I paid for the watch face, but did not specify the data lover, what should I do?

  235. Reply Demonid3e May 15,2021 21:23

    Do you have to have phone location services swiched on for weather update to work? I selecte openweather as weather option in face preferences?

    • Reply Peter May 16,2021 06:30

      no that’s not necessary, the location is fetched from your last gps activity (see faq q1 above)

  236. Reply Stephen May 18,2021 20:26

    Hi. Trying to put in data for the Field Bottom Gauge Right and left but it’s not working. Fenix 6. Can you please tell me how to fix and make the data populate. Thanks

    • Reply Peter May 19,2021 07:06

      it sounds as you are experiencing settings corruption. to fix this: switch to other watch face, uninstall data lover, reinstall data lover

  237. Reply José plaza May 19,2021 20:45

    Hi, I have a problem with the watch face, sometimes the watch face makes my watch don’t activate black light automatically, do you have any idea about what it can be?? When I change something on the watch face and I act the configuration using the garmin tool, that makes my watch don’t turn on the back light, please help me….!!!

    • Reply Peter May 20,2021 07:10

      the backlight functionality is handled by the firmware, watchfaces can not influence this

  238. Reply Kyle Briggs May 19,2021 21:02

    Love the watchface I just donated, thanks for the great work! Is there somewhere that lists what the default setting is for each field? I’m not sure what the default bottom right is showing me

    • Reply Peter May 20,2021 07:12

      you can see the configuration in the application settings (see faq q12), the bottom right figure will be part of the bottom gauge so if the gauge indicates steps this would be your step goal

  239. Reply Łukasz May 24,2021 05:42

    I accidentally paid twice 3 euros. Is it possible that I can use this money to get a code for other apps created by you?

  240. Reply Alberto May 28,2021 21:00

    When using the step goal chart as bottom chart the line at the base of the columns is missalligned and overlaps the columns, any way to fix this? Thanks

  241. Reply Михил May 30,2021 09:38

    hello. I want to make a donation of 3 euros. but paypal takes another 2 euros commission from me. how can I top up another account, without commission? only paypal?

  242. Reply Alberto Jun 5,2021 15:18

    Very good watchface, but the date text (for example “Sat, 5 Jun”) does not honour the language that has been set in the Garmin settings. Other watchfaces do it. Can you please fix it?

  243. Reply Stan Jun 6,2021 01:03

    Hi Peter.
    I’m trying to make a donation and looks like it’s going through. S as my help with that ?

  244. Reply Dave Roden Jun 8,2021 11:25

    Hi Peter
    Made a PayPal donation as requested but couldn’t find where to specify Data Lover for the payment.

    Please could you supply the Donation Key..?

    Many thanks


  245. Reply Ryan Jun 12,2021 19:38

    I have a new Garman tactics Delta and I’ve downloaded the data lover watch face. I have went through all the steps to update the weather but it still says Stillwater Oklahoma no matter where I go.

  246. Reply Bm Jun 24,2021 21:52

    Hi there, the top right field on my Fenix 6x has stopped showing the weather forecast. It used to work a while back. I can only seem to get weather condition and wind speed. Is anyone else having trouble with this?

    • Reply Peter Jun 25,2021 06:22

      Is your weather widget loop showing the forecast? If not, contact Garmin.
      If yes, try an uninstall (important!)/reinstall Data Lover.

  247. Reply Brad Jul 11,2021 00:28


    Does the donation enable frequent weather temperature updates? If so, how often will it refresh the temp?

  248. Reply Brad Jul 11,2021 00:46

    Also, does it drain the battery if the weather refresh happens every hour? Thanks!

  249. Reply Maria Jul 12,2021 05:53

    Hi Peter in the bar chart at the bottom, is the most recent day on the left?

  250. Reply Josh Henson Jul 19,2021 16:27

    I have followed every direction from every question regarding the settings for the city and my watch is still showing the weather from a city that is 107 miles from me. I have reset the long/lat coordinates multiples times. The watch is refreshing weather every 15 minutes but not from my location. I have a Garmin 935. What am I doing wrong? Can you help?


    • Reply Josh Henson Jul 19,2021 19:22

      After a reconsideration, it is possible that the “city” that is showing up on my watch is a section of my city called “Bellwood Estates.” It is less than a mile from my house. Is it normal for the “city” to show the name of a region or section of your city rather than the name of the city itself?


  251. Reply Peter Jul 19,2021 21:06

    this info is coming from the weather provider, I don’t have much influence on the name that they provide. It’s possible that city names contain region names, sometimes it even include the country name.

    I would suggest to show something else than city name in that location if the info is bogus in your area.

  252. Reply Martin Jul 22,2021 08:19

    Hi, I really like your watchface. There’s only one little thing I don’t like that much. I’ve configured the watch face to display the move circles at the bottom. It would be great if the move circles can be hidden, until an inactivity alarm is being triggered. When there’s an inactivity alarm the lines should be displayed step by step.

    At the moment there are five grey circles displayed. I tried to configure the grey color to black – but i didn’t find a setting for that. I can only configure the inactivity color.

    I’m using a Garmin Forerunner 245.

  253. Reply Peter Jul 23,2021 03:50

    I’ll see if I can find some free memory to add configuration for this

  254. Reply Chrain Jul 30,2021 18:10

    German weather Text in beta version can be too long, so that it overlays the data text. Would be nice to shorten e.g. “überwiegend bewölkt”
    Device: Forerunner 245 music

    • Reply Peter Aug 3,2021 20:17

      the texts are delivered by the weahter station, so I won’t be able to do a lot to the length of the text

  255. Reply GTLv97.6 Aug 3,2021 19:01

    Hi Peter, I really appreciate the work you have done with this watch face. I have a Vivoactive 4s and I noticed something a bit upsetting. At night I put my phone on Airplane mode which ofc severe the BLE connection btw the watch and the phone. If I don’t turn off the connection to the phone on the watch as well, the battery of the watch is drained by up to 50% overnight. I guess it might be some call relying on the connectivity that is failing and gets repeated too often. Do you think you can figure out and eventually fix the issue with the info I left you here?
    Thanks anyway for the great work.

    • Reply Peter Aug 3,2021 20:19

      Can you test whether you experience this with a standard (non connect iq) watch face as well?

  256. Reply Lilly Aug 5,2021 20:23

    Hello! I really love your watch face, it has everything i could possibly want at a glance. Is there any way to change the time from am/pm to military time so it’s not 0100p but 1300?
    I have a fenix 5s plus and the weather and localisation work perfectly!

    • Reply Peter Aug 6,2021 06:50

      this is a setting you change on the watch itself in the system settings / display (long press middle left button to get to settings)

  257. Reply Mark Aug 6,2021 11:44

    Hi Peter,
    I donated 3 days ago (twice) and didn’t receive a link.
    Gr. Mark

  258. Reply Lilly Aug 6,2021 14:57

    This watch face is amazing! Is there any way to change the time to military time so 1300 instead of 0100 am/pm?
    Thanks for the great work!

    • Reply Peter Aug 6,2021 19:09

      this is a setting you change on the watch itself in the system settings / display (long press middle left button to get to settings)

  259. Reply Ahran Shin Aug 9,2021 10:47

    Hi Peter !
    Thank you for the best watch face.

    I just donated and then recognized that i missed mention “data lover” in paypal.

    Could you send me a key even if I didn’t mention ?
    My email is
    Please check.

    Thanks a lot.

  260. Reply Jerome Aug 15,2021 20:59

    Bonjour juste un problème avec un IPhone la ville ne se met pas à jour aussi rapidement et précisément quand je j’utilisais cette appli avec un Androïd. Avez vous une solution à ce problème.

  261. Reply Robert Sep 5,2021 21:35

    I paid the “donation” and still have menacing note
    I want my money back.

  262. Reply Toshi Sep 12,2021 05:59

    Hi Peter,

    2 days ago, I bought the Venu 2(Firmware Version: 3.40) and downloaded Data Lover.
    I have some question during setting.

    1.Default setting of “Bottom Chart” is “Bar Chart – Steps”.
    If I changed this setting to any other value, then Venu 2 continued to display iQ icon with exclamation point on right up side.
    After this I changed the settings back to the original “Bar Chart – Steps” and the display remained the iQ icon.
    So, I have to uninstall and then reinstall to get the display back.
    I would like change the display of this part in Venu 2.

    2.I changed wind speed units from default value(km/h) to m/s.
    But, the display remains unchanged at km/s.
    I would like change this unit to m/s.

    I would be grateful if you could give me an answer.
    Thank you!

    • Reply Peter Sep 13,2021 10:04

      2. sounds like settings corruption. it’s possible that this could be solved by switching to other watch face, uninstall data lover and reinstall data lover

      1. an iq! means the app crashes, connect your device with your computer and browse to the folder /garmin/apps/logs, send me the file ciq_log.yml (you can mail it to )

    • Reply Riivo Sep 14,2021 06:52

      I had the 2. issue too. It helped to wait it bit. I suspect it updated the units at the next update cycle of the weather data.

  263. Reply JoeDoe Sep 12,2021 19:30


    I want to report a bug.

    There’s this annoying separator line shown on the watch in the bottom field when the “Shown moon phase” option is enabled.

    Photo attached:

    I hope you can see what I mean and I hope it’s a bug and not by design. 🙂

    Watch: Fenix 6x Pro


    • Reply Peter Sep 13,2021 10:06

      If you mean the separator between the sunrise and sunset, that is a picture of the moon phase you see there. If that’s not what you mean please clarify with a picture and a circle around what the issue is.

  264. Reply Riivo Sep 14,2021 06:23

    This is by far my favorite watch face that I’ve found for my fenix 6 Pro. I have two feature requests though — a small and a big one.

    The small one is about icons to Field Bottom Gauge Left/Right values. While I like to have the bottom gauge set to steps, the gauge right value showing a constant of the daily target is of little use. When I set it to either distance or calories, it’s just a number without units or an icon. The same metrics in the top gauge or just field bottom have nice little icons. Can you add or at least make it optional to display icons in the bottom gauge too? There should be plenty of space.

    The big request is about “Free text”. It would be ideal for geeks if that could be configured to pull its string value from a custom REST API URL and update similarly to weather information.

  265. Reply Pavel Sep 18,2021 06:23

    I’ve sent donation but not received key yet 🙁

  266. Reply Bart Sep 28,2021 16:31

    Hey Peter – great job with the watch face. I really enjoy it and have made the donation. I have one question (probably dumb), but here goes… why are you using the OpenWeatherMap API at all? I see that there is already a weather widget on my watch (vivoactive 3) which I assumes gets the weather data from the garmin app running on my phone and always seems to be up to date. So why not just use that data instead of all the complications with using GPS and the OpenWeatherMap API?

    • Reply Peter Sep 28,2021 16:46

      The Garmin weather source is at the Garmin API level only available on watches which have connect iq 3.2 or newer. (the vivo3 is connect iq 3.1 so I don’t have access to it there). On watches which have connect iq 3.2 (such as the vivo3 music) I provide the option to choose which weather source you use (Garmin or openWeather).

      There are also certain things which work better in openWeatherMap (eg location name) and then there are other things that work better in the Garmin weather source… So on the capable devices (connect iq 3.2 or newer) I provide the choice which weather source to use.

  267. Reply IMI Oct 7,2021 08:15

    I donate but I forgot to mention the email and Data Lover comment. Could you please support?

  268. Reply Bruno sena Oct 16,2021 22:42

    Hi I donate but forgot to mention

  269. Reply Alfredo Arino Oct 31,2021 20:34

    He hecho el pago pero no pude ni correo electrónico.
    Me lo puedes mandar ?

  270. Reply Elias Nov 10,2021 06:47

    Hi Peter.

    Firstly, I love your watch face and it worked flawless for one year.

    Since last weekend the weather stopped working. First it stopped updating. After I followed your FAQ it only says: wait for weather req.

    As I said, I followed your FAQ step by step. Also uninstalled and reinstalled a couple of times.

    I use a Garmin Forerunner 245 music. Since last week I use also a HRM Pro strap.

    I would love to use your awesome app. What should I do?

    • Reply Peter Nov 10,2021 08:47

      there’s not much more to say than what’s in faq q1

      before you uninstall switch to other watch face first, after that reinstall.
      another thing to try is to switch the weather provider in the app settings.

      • Reply Elias Nov 10,2021 14:15

        Thank you so much. Following this extra step and changing the weather provider worked. I am so happy!

  271. Reply Ian Nov 29,2021 01:22

    altitude field is set to meters, will not change to feet regardless of settings update to feet?

    • Reply Peter Nov 29,2021 04:18

      In order to optimize memory the distance unit for “distance” is reused also for altitude, so once you set distance to kilometers io miles altitude will be in meter.

  272. Reply Neil Dec 6,2021 17:53

    Hi Peter. On my Garmin 245 when I’m at home it shows my city as “Null”, but it does update when I’m out and about to the correct name. I’ve put in lat/long as well and I still have the same issue. Any ideas? Thank you.

    • Reply Peter Dec 7,2021 03:04

      this is a bug in the garmin weather provider, switch to openweathermap in the app settings.

  273. Reply Igor Dec 8,2021 08:29

    New version 11.8.1 contains bugs. I have a bottom chart configured to display Line Chart – Pressure. Starting from version 11.8, periodically at the point of pressure shows emptiness. This was not exactly in former versions!
    While you fix the bug, is it possible to do something like downgrade to the previous version 11.7.5?

    • Reply Peter Dec 8,2021 08:33

      only the last version is available

      • Reply Igor Dec 8,2021 11:12

        Peter, but at least saw that bug about which I wrote?
        It strongly strains that the pressure chart spontaneously disappears at any time and appears again as soon as I enter any Menu of the Garmin Fenix ​​6 Pro Solar clock and return to the screen with Data Lover

        • Reply Peter Dec 8,2021 12:55

          I’m not seeing the issue on my fenix 6 pro, I set the chart to pressure. Have you set the duration to 6 hours?

          I did an optimization to break out of the loop when the history value is not within the desired range, I assume if the data values on some devices are not ordered it could exit too soon. So I probably have to disable the optimization which is a pitty as it’s a waste of cpu cycles….

  274. Reply szanka Dec 8,2021 11:46

    is it possible to change the font? I’ve got problem with displaying polish fonts
    (like letters “ś”)

  275. Reply Igor Dec 8,2021 15:55

    Yes, I had a duration of up to 6 hours.
    Now there was another curious problem.
    You wrote in the changelog that you updated the version of Datalover to 11.8.2, but now only version 11.8.1 is downloaded and installed!
    That is, there is no possibility to set 11.8.2 and check whether “Disabled the Chart Optimization” helped.

    • Reply Peter Dec 8,2021 18:00

      the mobile app is always a few hours behind (it should be ok now), if you use Garmin Express on a computer you get the latest version straight away.

  276. Reply Igor Dec 8,2021 18:18

    PeterPeter, thanks for the clarification. It all worked out just like you wrote. Installed version 11.8.2 and now the Pressure chart won’t disappear. Thank you very much for the prompt correction.
    I understand that I have too many wishes, but would be ideal if you added support for external ANT+ sensors, specifically Garmin Tempe. Here’s a sample ready-made code for that: If you did, Garmin Tempe external sensor owners would have the unique ability to see the actual air temperature on the Data Lover watchface

  277. Reply Ian Dec 17,2021 01:36

    is there anyway to add compass and gps to the watch face?

    • Reply Peter Dec 17,2021 08:15

      I could add the last known gps coordinates, but a compass on a watch face is not possible (no heading info in a watch face)

  278. Reply Jim Dec 19,2021 16:32


    I love data lover. I use the Dexcom G6 device also. I have the ConnectIQ data field for Dexcom. How can i add that to data lover?

  279. Reply John Mabin Dec 29,2021 20:26

    Hi Peter. I have a related question on move circles. Is there anyway a move circle change could trigger a short vibration burst? Thanks. Garmin 245.

  280. Reply Martin Dec 31,2021 16:12

    It seems that API for Body Battery and Stress is now available. It would be nice to have the option to show stress/bodybattery directly on the watchface 🙂 (with graph).

  281. Reply Peter Dec 31,2021 17:51

    I have it available in my development version but can only make it available once watches support “system 5”.

    Currently there exist no watches which already have this.

  282. Reply Paul K Jan 2,2022 15:29

    Can the secondary time zone be set to different time zones?

  283. Reply Black Jesus Jan 6,2022 21:25

    Possibility of multilingual input?

  284. Reply Jeff Jan 7,2022 01:15

    Have used this face for years on my Forerunner 235, just got the Venu 2 and was very excited at all the additional customization options and made sure to send a donation. One thing is not working on my device that I would love, and that the “bottom chart” when using the Line Chart-hr. I have tried changing the duration and it still just shows up as an empty X and Y axis. Any thoughts on how to fix? I also tried all the other “bottom chart” options and they all work – just the Line Chart-hr that doesn’t. Thanks!

  285. Reply Martin Jan 7,2022 13:37

    Hi Peter,

    Thanks for a great watch face. A couple of comments/questions:

    – Sunrise and sunset times are quite a bit off compared to OpenWeatherMap (and other sources). In total about 7 minutes. I have made sure to lock GPS and wait for midnight update as you say, but that does not seem to fix it. What is the source, and why is it different?
    – How should i interpret the weather forecast for today (or tomorrow/day after tomorrow)? It seems to show max and min temperatures, but at the moment of writing this it says -1-0, whereas the current temperature is -6. How does that add up?
    – On the OWM site you can find expected precipitation within the next hour. Would it be possible to get this information into the watch face too?

    Thank you!

    • Reply Peter Jan 7,2022 14:04

      * Data Lover uses a simplified algorithm to calculate the sunrise. It’s a balance to get lower memory usage.

      * Forecast values are indeed min/max and they always are fetched from the Garmin weather service (my openWeatherMap subscription doesn’t have it)

      * Possibly. I’ll add it to my to check list.

      • Reply Martin Jan 12,2022 07:56

        Thanks for your reply Peter.

        Follow-up on my first two questions above: would it be possible to fetch the sunrise/sunset and weather forecast data from OWM instead of algorithm/Garmin weather?

        In my experience, Garmin weather is very inaccurate, to the extent that it is not really usable.

        Thanks again!

        • Reply Peter Jan 12,2022 08:47

          sunset/sunrise could be fetched from owm, forecast not as my subscription does not have it.

  286. Reply Mathieu G. Jan 8,2022 17:57


    Wondering if its possible to get the weather from the widget of the watch instead of Garmin weather or openwheatermap?

    it could be more easy like that,

    Thnak you

  287. Reply Stephen Jan 9,2022 22:35

    Hay Guys any way to use my wunderground API key with your watch face on a Delta Tatex, would be amazing to see my own weather station on this?

  288. Reply Mathieu G’ Jan 10,2022 13:15


    How to change unit altimeter and for walking distance ( walking distance in kilometers and altitude in feet)

    Thank you 🙏

    • Reply Peter Jan 10,2022 13:21

      this is not possible, for altitude also the distance unit is used (in order to save memory)

      • Reply Mathieu G. Jan 10,2022 13:36

        When you say memory do you mean power usage cause i think for exemple fenix 6 pro have good memory no?

        • Reply Peter Jan 10,2022 14:03

          the memory for watch faces is limited to 128kb, both code, storage and processing account towards to the total.

  289. Reply Gogo Jan 16,2022 12:58

    Hi, I want to pay for the app. My question is whether I will have to follow steps 1 to 4 or automatically according to the setting the time will be updated (15 minutes, 1 hour, etc.

    Garmin fenix 6X pro solar

    • Reply Peter Jan 16,2022 19:37

      The 4 steps remain the same whether you donated or not. You set the update frequency of the weather in the app settings (see faq q12 on how to access settings). With a valid donation key the weather update frequency is taken into account, without donation key the weather frequency update is hardcoded to be 4 hourly.

  290. Reply TDK Jan 17,2022 09:45

    In the bottom chart i’ve got steps weekly. Just after midnight the last day disappears. The steps for the new day are counted and drawn correctly but the previous day simply disappers. Eventually the “lost” day returns and the graph is correct but it takes time to do so. Any idea why this is happening?

    • Reply Peter Jan 17,2022 10:30

      I have also seen it happen, but have not been able to pinpoint in the code why it’s happening. (I’m assuming it could be because there are a lot of calculations happen at midnight eg sunrise calculation and the process gets killed by the watch, but so far I’ve found no proof of this).

      A workaround to fix the graph is to move away from the watchface to the widget and go back to the watchface.

  291. Reply Viktor Jan 18,2022 17:32

    Hello Peter, I have just installed your watch face on EPIX g.2 and there is a problem with the “always on” mode. The watch face did not just dimmed, but will turn off all the data, can see just watch (numbers) and (two optional datafields defined in menu) can be turned on. Is there any settings which will just dimmed the watchface instead of switching it off?

    Thank you, Viktor.

    • Reply Peter Jan 18,2022 18:03

      no the always on mode purposely has the smaller moving time to prolong the battery life (and also to prolong the life of your screen)

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